Thread: Another Stupid Bowl Sunday

At the risk of offending someone, I would just like to point out that the language in this thread seems to have taken an abrupt turn for the worse. Given that everyone who has posted so far seems to agree that the super bowl is not the be-all-end-all of human existence, it seems a shame to get so riled up about it....

Originally Posted by Joe Chandler

Tatsuo,
You're right, and I regret my part in it. I should never have resorted to name calling over something as insignificant. That being said, anyone who would be willing to leave this country over something like sports, or any reason for that matter (because they think other places are SOOOO much better) should go and live in those other places. I have, and I can tell you most places have the same problems we do.

Don't worry Joe, we all got a little annoyed after reading that post!

Originally Posted by Joe Chandler

Tatsuo,
You're right, and I regret my part in it. I should never have resorted to name calling over something as insignificant. That being said, anyone who would be willing to leave this country over something like sports, or any reason for that matter (because they think other places are SOOOO much better) should go and live in those other places. I have, and I can tell you most places have the same problems we do.

And I can tell you I have had friends from Central/ South America and Japan, who upon receiving college degrees did and would do anything they could to remain in this country, work hard, and succeed -------I'm sure they would be willing to take someone's place ------ some of these friends appreciated this country in ways I never could, and never could understand my lack of enthusiasm and laziness -----spoiled I am.

Justin

Just a question but what would it take for someone from the U.S. to move to Canada or a country in Europe? I've never thought of leaving so I haven't thought much about it ---I might want to visit but never leave for good.

Justin

Ok, first of all, none of you obviously read my whole thread...

My wanting to move had NOTHING to do with the superbowl. It is mainly the healthcare situation in this country being privatized overly profitable industry that hurts rather than helps. With my financial situation being what it is- also having type 1 Diabetes- and my health insurance situation being what it is, I cannot afford to survive while living here much longer. Any of the places I said I would like to move I would do so because of their healthcare situations (which I know first hand). Once I lose my COBRA plan in September, I will never be allowed to pay another insurance company in the US for coverage again because of my pre-existing condition. After that, my medical costs will be high enough to bankrupt me.

I did say in my post that this kind of thing (professional sports) happens everywhere. I also never badmouthed anyone watching the superbowl or sports fans in general. I used to be all about it. I just hate the salaries being paid. You would have gotten all of this by just reading my post.

Joe, I take great offense to what you said to me. I believe it goes against this groups terms of use. I had nothing against you and admired your work, opinion, and advice. I believe you owe me a personal apology and am sad that my view of you is now tarnished because of an insignificant opinion.

Originally Posted by Philadelph

Ok, first of all, none of you obviously read my whole thread...

My wanting to move had NOTHING to do with the superbowl. It is mainly the healthcare situation in this country being privatized overly profitable industry that hurts rather than helps. With my financial situation being what it is- also having type 1 Diabetes- and my health insurance situation being what it is, I cannot afford to survive while living here much longer. Any of the places I said I would like to move I would do so because of their healthcare situations (which I know first hand). Once I lose my COBRA plan in September, I will never be allowed to pay another insurance company in the US for coverage again because of my pre-existing condition. After that, my medical costs will be high enough to bankrupt me.

I did say in my post that this kind of thing (professional sports) happens everywhere. I also never badmouthed anyone watching the superbowl or sports fans in general. I used to be all about it. I just hate the salaries being paid. You would have gotten all of this by just reading my post.

Joe, I take great offense to what you said to me. I believe it goes against this groups terms of use. I had nothing against you and admired your work, opinion, and advice. I believe you owe me a personal apology and am sad that my view of you is now tarnished because of an insignificant opinion.

No ---I read your entire thread and my response had nothing to do with your dislike of the super bowl. But again I didn't know about your medical situation ----sounds like a rough situation --- good luck with it , wherever you choose to live, .......

Justin

Originally Posted by jaegerhund

No ---I read your entire thread and my response had nothing to do with your dislike of the super bowl. But again I didn't know about your medical situation ----sounds like a rough situation --- good luck with it , wherever you choose to live, .......

Justin

Sorry that I said "none". That encompassed too many people. And Justin I did not take offense to your words. In answer to your question, it takes a lot of time and paperwork to move to another country. I feel that for my life, it would be a better situation although not an easy one. I do understand the benefits that this country offers and said nothing bad about them. Once again- I was not "attacking" anyone. What Joe said was a blatant violation of the first rule of using these forums and was way out of line. He can have his opinion and so can everyone else, but when comments like his are posted it goes well over the line of good taste.

Philadelph, I have reread your first post several times over just to make sure that I am not in that group that you say did not read your post! While I don't agree with Joes lack of tact, I do believe you set yourself up for the kick in the "teeth" that he gave you!
You might try rereading your post from the position of someone who knows nothing of you, your beliefs, or your health condition! You might then see how such a situation could develop! I am not saying that Joes response was correct I do however understand and agree with his basic sentiment, what I am saying is that you bear some of the blame!

Mark Avery
I would also like to add that this was a real stupid thread for Thebigspendur to start right after the super bowl when emotions are running high!
Aren't you a moderator, bigspendur?

Good GOD!! Could you two please stop this? I'm appalled at the way tempers and words are flying all over the place.

I've seen people this worked up often enough....just not usually on this forum. People tend to stick to the rule of "Don't call someone something you wouldn't like to be called" here.

I don't think it's anyone's right to "Kick someone in the teeth" as Mark stated.

I think it's normal to say "I don't agree with you but that's ok" on ANY subject. wether it be your country, the football team you like or the damn color of HAIR you're painting yours.

If you don't like what someone is posting just say. I don't agree and leave it at that!

Sheesh.....

I feel like I need to invite my mom in here just to get some decorum....(I wouldn't subject my wife to this type of thing).

Originally Posted by LX_Emergency

Good GOD!! Could you two please stop this? I'm appalled at the way tempers and words are flying all over the place.

I've seen people this worked up often enough....just not usually on this forum. People tend to stick to the rule of "Don't call someone something you wouldn't like to be called" here.

I don't think it's anyone's right to "Kick someone in the teeth" as Mark stated.

I think it's normal to say "I don't agree with you but that's ok" on ANY subject. wether it be your country, the football team you like or the damn color of HAIR you're painting yours.

If you don't like what someone is posting just say. I don't agree and leave it at that!

Sheesh.....

I feel like I need to invite my mom in here just to get some decorum....(I wouldn't subject my wife to this type of thing).

I just want to make sure that I am clear! I did not say or suggest that anyone had a right to kick anyone else in the mouth...let me make sure I am clear here...I am saying that Joes approach was wrong and that Philadelph holds a portion of the blame! On super bowl sunday emotions run high, so that making such thoughtless statement, as Philadelph did, is like waving a red flag in front of a bull!