I'll no longer participate in this debate.

The point of the original debate was to discuss where YOU felt/thought morals come from. Whether they came from God or something else.

Instead this thread has been twisted into a god/no-god debate.

It started when Trewornan started stating his opinion about OTHER's people's beliefs concerning this and proclaimed them facts.

Like I said. There's just about as much evidence pointing TO a grand architect as there is evidence concerning that there is not.

Having this argument will do no good....to anyone.

And that apart from the fact that that wasn't what this thread was about.

The last 2 or so pages I've not seen anyone reply to the original question. So I'm stepping out.


Oh, and X, I've plenty of proof for myself. And could probably dig some up for you as well. But since you have so much FAITH in science. Here's one to ponder for you.

Science does NOT agree with itself either. There are as many opinions in science that clash as there are in religion.

So excuse me if I don't substitute my current (in my opinion better) beliefs for those of a scientist that claims what I believe is not true but can't prove what I should believe either.

Have a nice day

flaming away.