Thread: Calculate your contribution to destroying The Earth

Originally Posted by Bruno

I meant the hardliners of course. My statement was more a general observation about human nature in situations with a lot of emotional investment.

I am open to both sides of the debate, but given the vast amount of studies with wildly varying results, and the amount of data massaging to come to those conclusion (like the infamous hockey stick model) the only conclusion for me is 'we don't know'.

So while I do my best to limit the pollution I cause (for non GW reasons) I am not getting worked up about global warming.

I guess I was a little to focused on SRP rather than the big wide world all around us!

Originally Posted by Brother Jeeter

And how did you decide just where I chose to stop looking?

After the headlines you quoted. Perhaps I assume too much. My bad.

Originally Posted by Brother Jeeter

There are thousands, yes I said THOUANDS of reputable scientists who disagree with the concept of "man made global warming."

And they're largely well paid by Big Oil as was explained on the site I linked you to and makes them quite disreputable actually. They have openly stated that their agenda is to eliminate the concept of a crisis. Their words are false. There is actually scientific consensus on climate change. That's fact.
BEYOND THE IVORY TOWER: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change -- Oreskes 306 (5702): 1686 -- Science

Originally Posted by Brother Jeeter

"I am willing to look at compelling arguments. I am willing to rethink my position, IF I am shown new and radically different information."

Oh no, I caught that, but what it says is, "I reserve the right NOT to be sceptical".

Brother Skeeter, my friend, I have delivered you three buckets of factual water now.
I can see you're not thirsty.

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Did you guys remember to also input the carbon content of your razors?

Obviuosly the high carbon content of fine razor steel is melting the ice shelves!

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Did you guys remember to also input the carbon content of your razors?

Obviuosly the high carbon content of fine razor steel is melting the ice shelves!

Not the carbon in my razors. I am using underpaid polar bears to construct new razors for me using the carbon waste from my current razors.

Originally Posted by Traveller

,Ill let the folks in California,and Europe sacrifice to help out .Best Regards gary

What makes you think we in Europe give a sh*t, I must have been born in Texas and not told about it I couldn’t give a flying *^()”+***

"All things are connected. Whatever befalls the earth befalls the children of the earth." - Chief Seattle

One thing I find very interesting, DSailing alluded to it, is that they never tak into account your living situation and the natural recources available to you when talking about these things.

Here's an example:

I live in Michigan, we have fresh water, lots of it. On the other hand it tends to be fairly cool here without much sun. Heating water for washing takes a lot of energy, so if I use twice as much cold water as hot I am in a position where I use less irreplacable expensive recources.

If I lived in Arizona, Heat would be easy to come by. Water on the other hand...... So if I can use half as much water by heating it more I use less recources.

Why is this never taken into account?

Originally Posted by Wildtim

One thing I find very interesting, DSailing alluded to it, is that they never tak into account your living situation and the natural recources available to you when talking about these things.

Here's an example:

I live in Michigan, we have fresh water, lots of it. On the other hand it tends to be fairly cool here without much sun. Heating water for washing takes a lot of energy, so if I use twice as much cold water as hot I am in a position where I use less irreplacable expensive recources.

If I lived in Arizona, Heat would be easy to come by. Water on the other hand...... So if I can use half as much water by heating it more I use less recources.

Why is this never taken into account?

Because they are only interested in proving their point and showing how evil us humans are!
Are we not also a natural product of the earth?

Originally Posted by JMS

Because they are only interested in proving their point and showing how evil us humans are!
Are we not also a natural product of the earth?

Yes we are a part of nature, but that does not mean that we have dominion over it or the right to destroy it.

Although this calculator is missing much and may be biased, at least it reflects a change in the human focus to maybe just maybe detroy a little less of our home.

"Continue to contaminate your own bed, and you will one night suffocate in your own waste." - Chief Seattle

Seattle was a Dude of the first order. Very wise.