Thread: Will '08 election happen???

Here you go guys, take a read on what some folks think about this election with this link, or read below. Anyone here ever wonder why we have such poor choices of presidential candidates this time around?

Congressman John Olver Believes Bush Will Cancel 2008 Elections, Still Refuses to Support Impeaching Him or Cheney | AfterDowningStreet.org

By Bob Feuer

At 9 am, some twenty of the successful presenters of impeachment resolutions at their W. Mass. annual town meetings met at the Jones Library in Amherst, MA. We ratified our agenda and prepared ourselves for our 10 am meeting with Cong. John Olver.

At about 10 am, the congressman came into the room with his aid, and Susie Patlove welcomed the congressman, laid out our agenda, and the congressman approved. We commenced with individual introductions and brief reports on the outcomes in each of our towns. Cong. Olver asked us to spare him a review of what he already knew and believed about the
crimes of the Bush administration, and of the overwhelming majority of his district in favor of impeachment. When he aggrandized himself on his voting record, I took exception to 24 April 2007. When he asked what I was referring to, I challenged him to co-sponsor H. Res. 333; and he emphatically refused.

Nonetheless, we informed him of the good that would come out of an impeachment, and gave intelligent and caring answers to all of the objections he might harbor. We had present a young U.S. soldier, a veteran of both the Iraq and Afghanistan occupations, who directly asked the congressman what could we do to move him towards co-signing H. Res. 333. The congressman did not answer that direct question.

He is deeply concerned whether we will actually have an election in Nov. '08, as he believes this administration will likely strike Iran from the air, declare a national emergency, and cancel the '08 elections. He sees ending the war as his primary goal, and he believes the brilliant Nancy Pelosi has a strategy more potent than impeachment. He thinks impeachment is a futile waste of legislative energy, will be harmful of democratic '08 victories, and further tighten the "gridlock" he has complained of for the past few decades.

Olver would later deny he said this and would insist he was misquoted.

Not a word appeared in the corporate media, even though Olver has been a Democratic member of the United States House of Representatives since 1991. But then, of course, the corporate media is in bed with the neocons and wholly complicit in their plans to reduce Muslim and Arab countries to smoldering cinders. Last time around, neocon operative Judith Miller was allowed to publish all sorts of lies about Iraq in the “liberal” New York Times. Silence this time around should be expected.

Feuer’s claim is especially pertinent now as Dennis Kucinich attempts to get Bush impeached and rumblings about an attack against Iran pick up speed. The election is but a mere four months away and if Olver is correct — Bush will attack Iran, suspend the election, and declare martial law — this will have to go down in the next couple months or so. Bush and the neocons have installed their repressive legislation and directives — PDD51, the Military Commissions Act, and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, all designed to silence the opposition and “enforce acquiescence at home,” as the Episcopal priest and activist Frank Morales notes.

Only time will tell if this scenario will actually occur. If it does, we can expect the corporate media to remain silent on the rendition of activists to those brand spanking new Halliburton concentration camps, as fascists always sweep up and do away with the opposition.

I wouldn't touch this with a ten-foot 'Poll.'

( "ten-foot 'Poll' "...tongue -in-cheek reference to Popular Opinion. )

It is really too bad Ron Paul didn't get the nomination. I wouldn't put much past Bush, however I don't think the military would stand for him canceling the elections.

Mike

Originally Posted by megabit

It is really too bad Ron Paul didn't get the nomination. I wouldn't put much past Bush, however I don't think the military would stand for him canceling the elections.

Mike

I agree, but if such a thing were to happen as far out as it might sound, where is the military? They are not here.

I recall this topic being raised at the end of Clinton's second term, at least on some of the local radio call in shows. Silly, if you ask me. It would take an extraordinary set of circumstances, really extraordinary, for anything like this to happen. Just because some whack-job brings this up doesn't mean there's any real chance of this occurring. Relax--we'll have an '08 election even if Bush decides to bomb Iran (which he won't).

Originally Posted by billyjeff2

. Relax--we'll have an '08 election even if Bush decides to bomb Iran (which he won't).

I doubt he would just bomb Iran, perhaps but I doubt it. If he moved on them he has plenty of ground troops close by and I think he would invade too. Just call it a present for Obama. Unlikely at any event. Now then Israel might just bomb the nuke facilities. I don't think that would be enough to cancel either.

Now if they managed to pull off another 9/11 scale or larger attack here perhaps the elections would be postponed. That seems unlikely as either candidate would seem better for al-Qaeda and friends.

Mike

Yes.. Relax.. have a seat in front of the TV. Everything will be ok.
Neocons Lash Out at White House for Diplomatic Overtures to Iran - Forward.com"

There are many many journalists out there trying to make a living. Some of them don't conform to what the media will broadcast. Does this make these journalists Whack-jobs?
The king has no clothes.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

I agree, but if such a thing were to happen as far out as it might sound, where is the military? They are not here.

The military will do what they are told.
Article Two of the Constitution establishes the President as commander-in-chief of the armed forces and enumerates powers specifically granted to the President

Originally Posted by billyjeff2

I recall this topic being raised at the end of Clinton's second term, at least on some of the local radio call in shows. Silly, if you ask me. It would take an extraordinary set of circumstances, really extraordinary, for anything like this to happen. Just because some whack-job brings this up doesn't mean there's any real chance of this occurring. Relax--we'll have an '08 election even if Bush decides to bomb Iran (which he won't).

Good god, I'm in total agreement

"Yes.. Relax.. have a seat in front of the TV. Everything will be ok."

Well, considering there has never, ever been an instance where a presidential election was suspended, let alone for the type of scenario that was posited, I think the most intelligent view on this is that only whack jobs would harbor any serious concerns about the '08 election being put off. The same types who previously obsessed over black helicopters, secret detention centers and alien abductions.
At the same time, I realize some folks just get a kick out of this kind of nonsense...