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Thread: John McCain's pick for V.P.
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08-29-2008, 11:41 PM #1
John McCain's pick for V.P.
What do you think? Is the pick of a fairly unknown (on the national level) female meant to counter a mainstream popular minority canidate?
Does a Govenor from Alaska have the moxy to bolster the McCain ticket?
Will it help or hurt the GOP?
Will it help or hurt the Obama ticket?
Will it help or hurt America?
Everyone is invited to chime in ... what intresting times we live in!!!
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08-30-2008, 01:09 AM #2
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Thanked: 56Yup plus she'll bring in the disenfranchised women voters from Hilary's run. She's got more political experience then Obama from what it sounds like
Help McCain, Hurt Obama
I think the jury is still out on this one.
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08-30-2008, 03:01 AM #3
The fact that we don't know much or nothing about her is not her fault, her accomplishments are know facts, all it takes is a little research.
In my opinion she's already made an impact on the campaign, she's seems to be a very strong person, that doesn't let anything intimidate her.
I cant wait to see her next week again.
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08-30-2008, 03:37 AM #4
Agree that time will tell. Not much time left, however. We now enter the home stretch when most people pay attention.
Objectively, from a strategic view, a coup. It may or may not offer a tactical advantage.
I was of the opinion that McCain's VP choice didn't matter much as long as it wasn't Liberman. I may have been wrong. I respect Joe for his national security stand, but other than that, he is a democratic socialist through and through.
The talking heads are saying that her position on the ticket would never have happened if Hillery was the Democratic VP candidate. Irrelevant as Hilliary was never considered (some are really angry).
From a personal standpoint, my initial impression is that she is a crackerjack, no holds barred good gal reformer nonconformist that is a good fit with McCain. If she likes moose stew, she might just be OK.
Also, as the father of three, two of whom are adopted, I am very pro life.
When those of us that served came back from Viet Nam we were called baby killers and spat upon. I, nor any of the people with whom I served, ever killed anyone that didn't shoot at us first (those were the orders in 1969).
Did bad things happen? Yes, it was a war. Did good things happen? Yes, it was a war.
So, if you will pardon my context, I find it queer (used in the former meaning) that the real babe killers have re-branded the practice "pro choice" and it is celebrated as one of the great rights (not granted by the Constitution or the Bill Of Rights) in this nation.Last edited by Hawkeye5; 08-30-2008 at 03:41 AM.
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08-30-2008, 03:40 AM #5
More experience than Obama? She was first elected in 2006 and her only prior claim to fame was that she WASN'T Miss Alaska! She admitted, on July 31st of this year that she has no idea what the VP actually does, and she thinks creationism should be taught in schools even though that violates the separation of church and state, but I bet she doesn't know that. Either the Republicans are completely out of touch with reality or they're throwing in the towel. I predict America's first non white president.
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08-30-2008, 03:54 AM #6
Sorry Xman, have to disagree.
Governor in 2006. Mayor prior to that and on the Oil Commission after loosing the Lt. Governor race. She has more executive, that means decision making, experience than Obama or Biden put together. All they decide is what to have for lunch in the tax payer underwritten Senate lunch room.
She also uncovered corruption in the Oil Commission, and bucked the Republican machine to root it out.
How may Democrats have done that lately? Last I recall having $900,000 cash in your freezer was just fine with the Dems.
Please don't regurgitate party talking points.
There is no separation of church and state in the Constitution, the founding fathers only wanted to avoid a state church as was the case in England. The separation of church and state was a comment in Jefferson's personal correspondence to a friend.
The comment on the job duties of the VP were that no one had explained them. There are Constitutional duties, but each President delegates some functions to the VP and those duties vary.
I don't recall which VP said it, but something along the line that the job was worth a warm bottle of ****.
I think I'll leave now before I get in too much trouble.Last edited by Hawkeye5; 08-30-2008 at 04:09 AM. Reason: I think I'll leave now before I get in too much trouble.
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08-30-2008, 04:06 AM #7
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Thanked: 2Yes, more experience than B. Hussein Obama. Obama never had anything passed during his tenure in the Illinois Congress, had his ass handed to him in 2000. Additionally, he has had no legislation passed in the Senate. Actually, he has not done much since going to DC, missing a majority of votes because he is always out of Washington. He started his run for US Senate shortly after getting elected in Illinois Senate, so not much has changed. Plus now people are looking into his place of birth. The birth certificate submitted for him, looks surprisingly similar to the one attributed to his sister's birth, which was documented to have taken place in Hawaii. No one actually remembers BHO, being born in HI...interesting.
Doesn't matter who runs, Bilderberg Group has already made the decision.
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08-30-2008, 04:09 AM #8
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Thanked: 13245Obviously this is an election year and everybody has an opinion, let's just try and keep the discussions Gentlemanly....
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08-30-2008, 04:25 AM #9
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Thanked: 586I think more people have heard of my third garde teacher, Mrs. Patrick. Before being elected governor of Alaska (by 17 of the 28 people voting in that election) Palin was mayor of a town of 7000 people. She may bring in the feminazis (some of the 18 million cracks Hillary bragged about) that would rather eat broken glass smeared with dog crap than vote for Obama.
Personally I get the idea that McCain doesn't really want to be president. To have this woman only a heartbeat away from being president of the United States of America would be distressing to me, especially when McCain is so old.
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08-30-2008, 04:31 AM #10
"Yes, more experience than B. Hussein Obama."
Interesting that you chose to focus on Obama's middle name, especially since neither he, nor McCain, nor Clinton, nor Thompson, nor Edwards, nor Huckabee, campaigned using their middle name, and no one ever brings up their middle name, except when it comes to Obama. Gee-why do you think some folks go out of their way to reference Obama's middle name when they never seem to do the same for any of the other candidates? Hmm. Let me think. Could it be because they think there's some correlation between his middle name and, oh, say, a deposed Iraqi dicatator who happened to have the same name, with the goal of underhandedly inferring that Mr. Obama and Saddam Hussein have some true connection since, after all, they share the name name? Gee, I wonder. Do you think that's maybe the reason why virtually no one knows the middle names of McCain, Thompson, Clinton, etc,. yet virtually everyone knows Obama's middle name, even though none of the aforementioned candidates, including Obama, used their middle names publiclly during the election process? Gee. I wonder.
No-it couldn't possibly be that some folks think it's valid to try to draw a false correlation between someone's middle name and, say, terrorism, when there's no true correlation, via the sleazy innuendo of attempting to link a US citizen running for the office of president of the US with a deposed despot, could it?. That would be nothing more than a despicable act of fear-mongering. And we all know that only those who can't prevail on the facts, and who harbor bigotry in their hearts, are the ones who retreat into the realm of fomenting fear-mongering. Right?
Pathetic. Truly pathetic...
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