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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    Okay, now we're down to cases. What is your "reason to question McCain's citizenship, [and] his commitment to this country"?

    Be specific and show evidence.

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    There isn't any reason to question either for McCain.

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    Actually, I think McCain's has been questioned by some since he was born in Panama if I recall accurately. Apparently he satisfied the detractors

    Here's Obama's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Chandler View Post
    There isn't any reason to question either for McCain.
    And nobody is questioning it. Every time Obama mentions his name, he honors his service and his sacrifice, and Obama has never once questioned his citizenship.

    Not everybody plays like a Republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    Actually, I think McCain's has been questioned by some since he was born in Panama if I recall accurately. Apparently he satisfied the detractors

    Here's [Snip]
    Gee, I'd forgotten that his mother's name was Stanley. Jeeze, what kind of Amurrican has a mother named Stanley?

    That breaks it. I'm going for Ron Paul.

    Thanks for saving me from a mistake I'd always regret. Call the McCain campaign and tell them to get on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    And nobody is questioning it. Every time Obama mentions his name, he honors his service and his sacrifice, and Obama has never once questioned his citizenship.

    Not everybody plays like a Republican.

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    I'm not sure what "playing like a Republican" means. It's all politics. As far as the certificate, I'm satisfied. And that's also not why I posted it. I just thought it was an interesting argument I heard on the radio so I posted it to get other opinions. I don't know if it's all true or not, but obviously the Democrat who filed the suit thinks so. And if it is, and Obama wins, and it was later found to be true, it would precipitate a constitutional crisis like we haven't seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Chandler View Post
    I'm not sure what "playing like a Republican" means. It's all politics. As far as the certificate, I'm satisfied. And that's also not why I posted it. I just thought it was an interesting argument I heard on the radio so I posted it to get other opinions. I don't know if it's all true or not, but obviously the Democrat who filed the suit thinks so. And if it is, and Obama wins, and it was later found to be true, it would precipitate a constitutional crisis like we haven't seen.
    The constitution handles this situation: Biden would become president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbonator View Post
    The constitution handles this situation: Biden would become president.

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    Ok, but what if Obama had made a bunch of treaties, agreements, etc., and then it was found he didn't have constitutional standing to do so until much later? What would you do then? I understand the Constitution might cover the landscape, but what of the details? Also, I'm not aware of anything in the Constitution addressing this specific eventuality. Please enlighten me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Chandler View Post
    Ok, but what if Obama had made a bunch of treaties, agreements, etc., and then it was found he didn't have constitutional standing to do so until much later? What would you do then? I understand the Constitution might cover the landscape, but what of the details? Also, I'm not aware of anything in the Constitution addressing this specific eventuality. Please enlighten me.
    The 25th Amendment deals with the death and disability of the president. Ineligability would be a disability under that amendment. Once the disability is discovered Biden would automatically become president. Anything Obama did up until that point would stand as it would have been done in good faith. To be sure though I am positive that the Congress and the new president would probably quickly redo the bills just to imbue them with legitimacy.

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    Well, I suppose he'd be sent home with all his stuff and the possible legal proceedings for forgery (or whatever it would be termed) would ensue. He'd be jobless at the time since he wouldn't have his senate seat. As for whatever he did while in office, well, I guess we just get caught with our pants down. I'm sure though that Biden would follow suit with every last president and both pardon and honor Obama

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