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    Hi All,
    Not being a member of either party tends to be confusing at times. Two very different points of view have to be looked at carefully, in order to determine which party makes more sense at the time. That problem is often solved for staunch party members, since there's no need to question who's right or wrong.

    I, like many other Americans, had never heard of Sarah Palin before the nomination. I didn't hate her right away because I figured she was a Republican, and I didn't have nearly enough information to determine if she was a good choice or not. The thing is, there's not much unscripted recent sound bites to help me make that decision properly.

    You know, there's something weird going on with her being not being allowed to speak in many unscripted interviews or press events. Well, maybe that's not quite right.........maybe she is being protected, but only cause she's not used to being in the spotlight like she's been. It's possible she's a very shy person, and just needs to build up her confidence a little more. She might very well be quite capable of dealing with tough interviews, or a press conference or two. She might even be a smarter and more compelling speaker than Mr McCain himself.

    The thing is, this isolation makes her look bad, IMO.To an impartial eye, it looks like she is considered a liability when it comes to speaking her mind in public. It seems like her advisors are keeping her from doing harm to herself and the party.......they think it will be bad if she shows who she really is. It looks a lot like she's undergoing some kinda mental makeover......learning many new things. Anyway, that's only what it looks like to me. Republicans must see things differently than me in this case.

    I'm asking any Palin fans if they don't also thing something screwy is going on? Don't they also wonder why she isn't seen in more public events, or is it not worth questioning because she's a Republican? What if she was the Democratic pick........would you think it was strange then? What is the advantage to the Republican party by seemingly keeping her under wraps? How can her lack of presence be viewed as a virtue?

    The Republicans aren't even bothering to deny it.........they pretend like it's not being asked and never mention it. They just continue to do whatever it is with Mrs Palin. I just don't see the value in that strategy. Can someone who backs Palin please explain, in a clear manner, why this doesn't bother you. This looks a lot like party loyalty is being counted on to help overlook the odd situation here. I'd love to understand why this strategy makes sense in somehow showing the candidate's strengths. It seems like it's having just the opposite effect, and it's showing the fear of what she might say whenever she opens her mouth. I just don't get it.

    Please, if anyone cares to respond, DON'T post anything negative. I understand that argument already, and I'm just trying to see what some supporters think of her being sequestered like this. I can't help but think it would make them somewhat uncomfortable. I now truly have strong doubts on her qualifications and demeanor being successfully defended in a reasonable manner, and it looks like her party is trying to make her as invisible as possible. I can't figure out how that helps the Republicans though, unless THEY actually believe she isn't a qualified candidate. See why I'm confused? Show me her good side......the side I'm unable to glimpse.

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    Martin

    Oh..if anyone DOES respond, once again no answers like "There are no good points....she IS being kept from sight", or anything like that. I'm asking for the exact opposite of that answer. Something like "This is good strategy because......", but in a positive way instead of negative.
    Thank you again
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    I made a small wager with a member here that conservatives would come out in droves to vote for McCain because of Palin, but since I realized that they had put her on a leash I asked that we drop the bet! If she can't speak her mind It doesn't help McCain as I see it!

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    I'm not republican, but I'm not necessarily anti-Palin, so here it goes. It's my understanding that Palin has been campaigning almost daily since the... what do they call it? Big party? Beer bust? That thing they did during the hurricane... Rally? CONVENTION. That's it. My mind went blank for a minute. She's been out there, she's been on T.V., I don't see any less of her than I do of Biden at this point. Since she's V.P. candidate and the election is mainly focused on the office of the President, I don't find it surprising that she doesn't get all the press McCain does. That's probably why you're not seeing as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maplemaker View Post
    I'm not republican, but I'm not necessarily anti-Palin, so here it goes. It's my understanding that Palin has been campaigning almost daily since the... what do they call it? Big party? Beer bust? That thing they did during the hurricane... Rally? CONVENTION. That's it. My mind went blank for a minute. She's been out there, she's been on T.V., I don't see any less of her than I do of Biden at this point. Since she's V.P. candidate and the election is mainly focused on the office of the President, I don't find it surprising that she doesn't get all the press McCain does. That's probably why you're not seeing as much.
    The Press is not allowed to ask her any questions. They're not allowed to even talk to her on the record in passing on her plane.


    The Ed Schultz Show
    Breaking News from Big Eddie:
    McCain Camp insiders say Palin "clueless"
    Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain people
    are more than concerned about Palin. The campaign has held
    a mock debate and a mock press conference; both are being described as "disastrous." One senior McCain aide was quoted as saying, "What are we going to do?" The McCain people want to move this first debate to some later, undetermined date, possibly never. People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is "clueless."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    I made a small wager with a member here that conservatives would come out in droves to vote for McCain because of Palin, but since I realized that they had put her on a leash I asked that we drop the bet! If she can't speak her mind It doesn't help McCain as I see it!
    Hi there,
    You know, it DOES look to me like she's really being handled carefully, but it just doesn't make any sense to do that. To me, the logical idea would be for Mr McCain to include a strong running mate...someone who instills confidence in numerous ways. I would think that was taken into consideration when making the VP pick, so you can understand my confusion.

    Really, why pick someone who looks unable to hold their own on many important issues. Oh......that was a rhetorical question.........please, no one answer....heh. Remember, no negativity form posters please.

    In all seriousness, I would love it if someone voting for the McCain/Palin duo would explain why they have no problem with the extremely limited access being granted with Mrs Palin. If that's a non issue, I'd like to hear that also.
    Martin

    Oh Scott? Thanks for posting the clip.......hadn't seen that one before. Hehe, my admiration for Katie continues to grow, since she did a few things that impressed me. One, she kept a straight face during that whole bit, and second, she never once let her eyeballs roll back in her head. Now that's being a professional.

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    That answer really reminds me of that beauty pageant contestant who gave that nonsensical answer about six months ago that hit upon every talking point her handler gave her in one sentence.

    So help me, I was gonna ask for a link, but googling "stupid beauty contestant" gave this as the first hit!!

    YouTube - Miss Teen USA 2007 - South Carolina answers a question

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    Quote Originally Posted by maplemaker View Post
    I'm not republican, but I'm not necessarily anti-Palin, so here it goes. It's my understanding that Palin has been campaigning almost daily since the... what do they call it? Big party? Beer bust? That thing they did during the hurricane... Rally? CONVENTION. That's it. My mind went blank for a minute. She's been out there, she's been on T.V., I don't see any less of her than I do of Biden at this point. Since she's V.P. candidate and the election is mainly focused on the office of the President, I don't find it surprising that she doesn't get all the press McCain does. That's probably why you're not seeing as much.
    Hi there,

    I started out not being anti Palin, but something strange is pulling me in a negative direction. Oh, before going farther, let me please just tell you this is only my opinion. Don't for a second take anything I say as a slam or anything like that at all.......ok? We all think differently.....that's all it is.

    Mr Biden has many many years of sound bites and a long legislative track record that helps define who he is. He's a well known entity, and you pretty much know what you're getting. Mr's Palin is basically a total unknown, and that's fine (or it should be anyway). The thing is, there really has been a lot less access granted when it comes to being ALLOWED to interview her. I totally believe that to be true.

    You're right, you don't see a lot of Mr Biden on tv at the moment either, but it's not as important in his case. He does make the news occasionally, but I think Mrs Palin gets much more press than he does. One subject that comes up a lot is the inabilty to actually have an off the cuff or spontaneous discussion with her, and that's where my question comes in.

    I'd like her supporters to comment on if that bothers em at all, and if not, then why wouldn't it. I have my doubts it can be done in a reasonable manner, but I'll still leave some room for changing my mind.

    Martin

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    Watch the interview and you soon see why they don't let her talk spontaneously or answer questions. I really feel sorry because they really have done her a disservice by shielding her this long, obviously not preparing her and putting her in way over her head. Her self confidence really has to have been shaken by these really poor performances. The fact that the Republicans declared war on the press didn't help either.

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    Hey, Martin. Sorry, should have quantified the post a little better. As a senator, Biden is really well known, but I don't think he's getting any more or less as the V.P. candidiot than Palin. I neglected to separate the two situations clearly. Sorry.

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