Thread: Palin vs Biden!

Without the editing, with having to think on their feet, what are your impressions of the two VP candidates now after their debate?

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Originally Posted by JMS

Without the editing, with having to think on their feet, what are your impressions of the two VP candidates now after their debate?

what about you mark?

Originally Posted by gugi

what about you mark?

Later gugi, later! I will tell you though that I believe she left a favorable impression!

not with me, though

Originally Posted by JMS

Later gugi, later! I will tell you though that I believe she left a favorable impression!

She couldn't help it. Her bar was so low that if she simply managed to come out on stage an not drool all over herself, she'd improve her image.

Results will depend on whether people notice that she repeatedly veered off the question she was asked to recite the rote answers that she was prepped with. I'm not saying I blame her -- we've all seen how she performs when she's actually unscripted. But whether people will notice or not is the question. Also, her untruths about Obama, which she repeated even after Biden had debunked them, may not help her.

Biden performed better than I'd expected. CNN's tracker spiked very, very high when he talked about Cheney.

Gwen Ifil was terrible. She utterly failed to keep Palin on-topic. She didn't even try. But then, she's a close friend of Condoleeza Rice.

I suspect that people will see what they wanted to see, which is a victory for Obama. No game-changers here.

j

Originally Posted by gugi

not with me, though

I figured as much!

I had flashes of nausea from last week's debate.

I thought Palin did much better than any of her interviews. Biden was very restrained and stayed on point.

When Palin started getting out of her comfort zone, she began replying with coached talking points - it was obvious from the verbiage. Also, the switching for standard American English to "folksy" talk was annoying....and a bit condescending. Going from "We are going to change..." in one sentence to "We're gonna git busy makin' things better" in another made is sound like she was doing imitations. She has trouble stringing sentences together and having them make grammatical sense (thus being able to be understood). One other point - the word is "nuclear" not "nucular"....but at least she didn't use "irregardless". The bug-eyed facial expressions the her changing her tone of voice when she was making a point was very odd...I expected her to jump into baby-talk any moment.

She was definitely struggling with Foreign Affairs. And I'm not sure what war she meant when she said McCain knows how to win a war.....

Biden started falling back into "facts and figures" to support his points. He also switched into Senate-ese at several points during his responses. I am sure tomorrow the fact checkers will be pointing out where he "forgot" how he voted on certain things. He didn't look at the camera much in the first half and semed to be fiddling with his podium or papers on it. Also, you could hear him sighing a couple times in response to Palin's replies. He followed Palin's lead and started in with the "back in my hometown" or "on my main street", etc. Do either of them actually think any cogniscent person considers them an "average person"? Biden seemed to go on the defensive when issues came up about his voting record.

Both of them brought up personal family difficulties, be it a special-needs kid, a deceased wife/daughter - I thought it was a bit melodramitic...right up there with the veterans' bracelet exchange by McCain and Obama.

Both had trouble answering the questions - or outright refused to do so - instead choosing to keep on the previous topic/beating a dead horse. Biden made a point of telling the moderator he was going back to another topic, Palin asked if it was ok...then both of them rambled on, repeating both themselves - and in some instances - their principles almost word for word.

They both were playing "buzz-word bingo" when they needed to fill in their comments:

When I was mayor....
In my hometown....
Main Street....
Nonpartisan
Maverick
At the kitchen table....
Back in Wilmington...
The middle class family...
Energy-producing state...

I can't say who won...Biden stayed on topic more without repeating talking points, but Palin engaged the camera more.

I can say who lost: I think we all will in November, regardless of who wins.

Biden seemed to be totally infatuated with Gov. Palin...I was able to force myself to watch the last 15 minutes after getting sick from the 1st hour. They put on a good show but that's it folks. You need to make a serious life decision here. Are they for us or against us?!? I think I threw up in my mouth when I heard Palin get all wet because her and Biden both love Israel. WTF. Which country are they running for office in? That hair in the eye thing bugs me too...

Ok,...I'll admit it...Palin's hair made me want to grab some scissors and Biden puffy eyes needed some cucumber action.

"Make-up! Center stage!"