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  1. 10-16-2008, 06:42 PM #61
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    His policies are so bad he even made himself hurl......
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    The question is who "won" the debate?

    There's only one criterion. McCain needed a game changer. He didn't get it. He didn't even come close. He was able to put on a good, red-meat show for the extreme Republican base, but he never really laid a glove on his opponent. I thought Obama's response to the Ayers and ACORN question was particularly masterful. It effectively took the question off the table for the rest of the evening.

    The best comment on McCain's performance comes from Shakespeare (as so many things do): Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

    Game to Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama leads two sets to none, and five games to none in the third set. It is Mr. Obama's serve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    One of the funniest sights this election season was seeing David Brooks after Sarah Palin's RNC convention speach. He was in love! His eyes were all dreamy, and he couldn't really focus on the subject. Like a schoolboy with a crush, it was really funny to see the state he was in.
    He seems to have changed his mind:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/op...=1&oref=slogin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    He seems to have changed his mind:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/op...=1&oref=slogin

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    And I thought it was just me that felt this way....

    There is no shame in being ignorant, only in remaining so willfully. This nation was built by both the educated classes and those who made a living through the sweat of their brow - and sometimes they were they same people (John Adams, Harry Truman, Abraham Lincoln)...and it was everyone's goal to get an education, to improve ones' self, or to make it possible for their children.

    Instead, we have people who revel in their ignorance, are proud that they have no cognizance of the world around them, relish their xenophobia, disdain the tuition of others with broader learning and experiences, and all the while attempting to force their beliefs on others.

    Looking at the GOP today, Greeley, Bovay and the others would be enraged, Lincoln would be weeping.
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  6. 10-17-2008, 01:59 AM #65
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    I couldnt help wonder what Andy Jackson would think of todays democrats.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain
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    I have to agree with Maplemaker...the fact that these 2 guys made it this far is simply disgraceful. One leans left, the other leans right, but there is no substance to either of them.

    I weep for the future of our once great country........damn them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WireBeard View Post
    Obama again did not take the bait on Ayers, ACORN, or abortion (where did that come from?).

    Regarding the abortion issue, it is the baby born alive act.

    YouTube - Barack Obama Votes Against Babies Born Alive!


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    (I'm just responding to "where did that come from" and I don't want to start a debate on abortion)
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    This whole campaign is so similar to the Bush vs Clinton and then Clinton vs Dole campaign, You have the old warhorhorse ready to retire competing against the new tough kid on the block and the warhorse gets a bonus for taking a dive in the fifth round, while the crowd goes wild.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain
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  • 10-17-2008, 06:07 PM #69
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    I always liked the way my father put it:

    "Ignorance is not knowing, Stupidity is not knowing and not caring."



    Quote Originally Posted by WireBeard View Post
    And I thought it was just me that felt this way....

    There is no shame in being ignorant, only in remaining so willfully. This nation was built by both the educated classes and those who made a living through the sweat of their brow - and sometimes they were they same people (John Adams, Harry Truman, Abraham Lincoln)...and it was everyone's goal to get an education, to improve ones' self, or to make it possible for their children.

    Instead, we have people who revel in their ignorance, are proud that they have no cognizance of the world around them, relish their xenophobia, disdain the tuition of others with broader learning and experiences, and all the while attempting to force their beliefs on others.

    Looking at the GOP today, Greeley, Bovay and the others would be enraged, Lincoln would be weeping.
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  • 10-17-2008, 09:36 PM #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by sicboater View Post


    I always liked the way my father put it:

    "Ignorance is not knowing, Stupidity is not knowing and not caring."
    I like that...even more to the point!
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