Thread: Did Plato meet McCain/Palin?

"Democracy leads to rule by the stupid (sophists), who while they may have fine rhetorical skills (that can exert some control over the masses) have no true knowledge itself." Plato

After watching their campaign over the last couple months I'm pretty sure they are more familiar with Socrates....

Originally Posted by twelvepbrs

After watching their campaign over the last couple months I'm pretty sure they are more familiar with Socrates....

Can you say 'hemlock'?

I hope you guys aren't getting c0cky!? You know what they say: "Pride goeth before a fall."

Hmmmm...he might have...I doubt she knows who he was. Some of his quotes are still pertinent today:

"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."

"The partisan, when he is engaged in a dispute, cares nothing about the rights of the question, but is anxious only to convince his hearers of his own assertions."

"All the gold which is under or upon the earth is not enough to give in exchange for virtue."

Here's one they obviously ignored:

"Our object in the construction of the state is the greatest happiness of the whole, and not that of any one class."

Who is Plato?

Sara Palin's answer- He's that big orange Disney Dog?

Originally Posted by Hutch

"Democracy leads to rule by the stupid (sophists), who while they may have fine rhetorical skills (that can exert some control over the masses) have no true knowledge itself." Plato

I'm sure he had Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid in mind

I'm not a fan of Nancy Pelosi, but on her worse day she not as dozy as Sara Palin, as for Harry Reid you might not like his politics but he is reasonably engaged, educated and professional.

Originally Posted by Hutch

I'm not a fan of Nancy Pelosi, but on her worse day she not as dozy as Sara Palin, as for Harry Reid you might not like his politics but he is reasonably engaged, educated and professional.

Pelosi isn't bad. She's just been targeted by the Republican slime machine. They immediately set about to demonize anyone who stands in their way.

Pelosi has done some good things and some dumb things, but mostly, she spends her time herding cats. It's easy for an unscrupulous opposition to make that look bad.

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Remember, if your not a Republican your not a real American, if you're educated and can speak in full sentences your an elitist.

If you want smaller government vote Libertarian, Republicans say they are about small government but its not true, they need bigger government to enforce all the draconian things they will impose on you as they strip your rights away. The Republicans party is basically a church group that likes to spend money irresponsibly and make their real American friends rich on the backs of the taxpayers. They've managed to fool the middle class for years with fear, "someday you may be rich and the Dems. will take all your money and then they will take what's left after you die with the death tax", guess what if your not rich now the likelihood that you will is very slim, don't vote based on fear.

The last eight years there was a Republican Administration, 6 of the last 8 years both house were controlled by the Republicans, what did you get for it. Your rights have diminished, your incomes in terms of real dollars have gone down, while the top 10 percent have gotten wealthier, you've lost jobs while the boys at the top take obscene bonuses, buyouts and exit packages, and you've lost health care coverage, its time for change, its time to try something different.


Remember:

Enron
Tyco
Worldcom
9/11 (we didn't think they could fly planes into a building, despite reports with that subject in the title)
The failure in Afghanistan
Failing to execute the operation at Tora Bora and letting Bin Laden escape
Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq
Abu Ghraib
Camp X-ray Guantanamo Bay
Participating in torture or allow third parties to torture on the US's behalf
Dick Cheney to this day saying the Iraq had something to do with 9/11 despite the fact that no one has factually linked the them together, in fact most have found the opposite.
The government accessing your personal information, and stripping away your individual rights.
Hurricane Katrina


Tax cuts are nice but in the current reality any one who thinks taxes should be cut is delusional, for starters if you're a good republican you must think the Iraq war is great, how do you purpose that the US pay for a war that cost 10 Billion dollars a month? How do you plan on securing the borders and the ports, fighting in Afghanistan and pay for the recent bailouts to name just a few of the big ticket items.