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    I take no offense to Christmas, the winter solstice, Chanukah, Kwanza or what have you. I do take offense to Halloween egg nog (yes it now exists) and things like Christmas Creep where the trees come out before Halloween! Lately it's become all about spending which isn't really the meaning... the true meaning is about GIVING and spreading goodwill amongst your fellow man.

    I fail to see how bickering amongst ourselves is spreading goodwill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

    Are you saying it is wrong to enjoy someone else celebrations, and learn about them?

    I have no problem when some wishes me a Merry Christmas, or my Jewish friends wish me a Happy Hanukkah, or my Indian friends wish me Happy Diwali, these are important things to them and they choose to include me I take that as a compliment.

    I think the argument is that there are public displays of religious holidays, in North America they are mostly Christian, what is the problem with allowing other religions to have public displays if they wish to have them?

    No what I am saying is you can enjoy what ever you want and so can everyone else. And if someone chooses not to recognize other beliefs that is their free choice. This country was founded in Christianity but it allows all to choose with out persecution from others. Your beliefs are yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronX View Post
    I take no offense to Christmas, the winter solstice, Chanukah, Kwanza or what have you. I do take offense to Halloween egg nog (yes it now exists) and things like Christmas Creep where the trees come out before Halloween! Lately it's become all about spending which isn't really the meaning... the true meaning is about GIVING and spreading goodwill amongst your fellow man.

    I fail to see how bickering amongst ourselves is spreading goodwill.
    Very well said spreading goodwill should cross all beliefs

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    Hutch, you're welcome. It had nothing to do with your ideas and everything to do with the incessant thanking you do around here. I suppose that just makes me a, shudder, conservateur. Yeah, a conservative in French. Dum, dum, dum!

    I think the argument is that there are public displays of religious holidays, in North America they are mostly Christian, what is the problem with allowing other religions to have public displays if they wish to have them?
    The answer to your question? "In North America they are mostly Christian."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronX View Post
    I take no offense to Christmas, the winter solstice, Chanukah, Kwanza or what have you. I do take offense to Halloween egg nog (yes it now exists) and things like Christmas Creep where the trees come out before Halloween! Lately it's become all about spending which isn't really the meaning... the true meaning is about GIVING and spreading goodwill amongst your fellow man.

    I fail to see how bickering amongst ourselves is spreading goodwill.
    I draw the line at Egg Nog, I find it very offensive actually the term would be vile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiggamore View Post
    Hutch, you're welcome. It had nothing to do with your ideas and everything to do with the incessant thanking you do around here. I suppose that just makes me a, shudder, conservateur. Yeah, a conservative in French. Dum, dum, dum!



    The answer to your question? "In North America they are mostly Christian."
    I guess its your job to police the thanking, and calling me a "tool" was only about my thanking too often. Considering I have thanked 30 times and you have thanked 35 and I've been here longer and have more post. Who "thanks" too much? More rightwing spin, fast and loose with the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    I guess its your job to police the thanking, and calling me a "tool" was only about my thanking too often. Considering I have thanked 30 times and you have thanked 35. More rightwing spin.
    Hey, see the badge? They don't hand these out in boxes of cereal.

    Had you simply thanked 30 times, that'd be fine. But you did not. You did it with all this complexity, thanking for all the wrong things. Now, I had to thank the people who said my wife looked nice. Then I had to make a point.

    But, you're not the Judge. Next time, check the legislation before you go Thanking like crazy. Motherthanker. Honestly, what is happening to our children?

    I'll tell you what... they don't pray before class anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiggamore View Post
    Hutch, you're welcome. It had nothing to do with your ideas and everything to do with the incessant thanking you do around here. I suppose that just makes me a, shudder, conservateur. Yeah, a conservative in French. Dum, dum, dum!



    The answer to your question? "In North America they are mostly Christian."
    Yes in North America they are mostly Christian, that what I said in my post. So what is the problem including others celebrations and symbols, other than the fact many of the religious right feel it will take away from theirs, just like gays getting married somehow effects their marriages.

    The religious right were upset with the inclusion of Wiccan on soldiers graves.

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    Because, in North America they are mostly Christian. Not the celebrations, but the people. Majority rules, man. It isn't fair, but life isn't fair. Same reason why in say, Saudi Arabia, you don't celebrate Christmas.

    Or maybe you do. I never went there.

    Wiccan symbols on graves? Well, the desecration of Christian cemeteries upsets me, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiggamore View Post
    Hey, see the badge? They don't hand these out in boxes of cereal.

    Had you simply thanked 30 times, that'd be fine. But you did not. You did it with all this complexity, thanking for all the wrong things. Now, I had to thank the people who said my wife looked nice. Then I had to make a point.

    But, you're not the Judge. Next time, check the legislation before you go Thanking like crazy. Motherthanker. Honestly, what is happening to our children?

    I'll tell you what... they don't pray before class anymore.
    Which Badge might that be?

    And you are the Judge I guess?

    Which Legislation would that be?

    I guess I'll ask you what the right things are to thank for.

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