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    Quote Originally Posted by roughneck View Post
    I agree that many black people have been mistreated for a long time. However it seems by what you are saying is that it okay for black people to vote for a black president based upon his color. If so could that act be considered a form of racism, by voting simply for the non white guy? This is a serious question. I would really like to know what you think. And yes I know that many white people voted for the white guy for the same reason.

    I hope Mr. Obama does well and wish him all the best.
    It would be extremely short sighted to attribute Obama's victory simply to the color of his skin. He is a great orator and a brilliant man. He filled people with hope that perhaps this country can rise again from the depths into which she has sunk. Naturally, the black Americans, especially the ones old enough to remember segregation have finally reached that elusive mark. The cookie jar on the highest shelf. They can now look into the eyes of a black youth and say with all honesty that they can one day grow up to be President of the United States of America. Shame on anyone who would deny this opportunity to people who have worked and suffered so long for, to people who have been taught that "white is better". Yes Jockeys, collectivism does suck, especially when you denied admission into the bigger collective of your own country. I suggest we look at history and remember all the people whose blood has been spilled on this road Barack Obama has just travelled. This is a great day. Not just for Blacks but for Americans of all sizes, shapes and colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedog View Post
    It would be extremely short sighted to attribute Obama's victory simply to the color of his skin. He is a great orator and a brilliant man. He filled people with hope that perhaps this country can rise again from the depths into which she has sunk. Naturally, the black Americans, especially the ones old enough to remember segregation have finally reached that elusive mark. The cookie jar on the highest shelf. They can now look into the eyes of a black youth and say with all honesty that they can one day grow up to be President of the United States of America. Shame on anyone who would deny this opportunity to people who have worked and suffered so long for, to people who have been taught that "white is better". Yes Jockeys, collectivism does suck, especially when you denied admission into the bigger collective of your own country. I suggest we look at history and remember all the people whose blood has been spilled on this road Barack Obama has just travelled. This is a great day. Not just for Blacks but for Americans of all sizes, shapes and colors.
    That didn't really answer the question.

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    I can honestly say I don't know a single anti-Obama voter personally who mentioned his color at all. All the discussions we've had at work had to do with liberty and socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maplemaker View Post
    I can honestly say I don't know a single anti-Obama voter personally who mentioned his color at all. All the discussions we've had at work had to do with liberty and socialism.
    I totally agree... except for the work discussion part. Most of the political discussions I've been involved in are outside of work. I don't see race being a part of it at all. Maybe it's my locale.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver View Post
    I do not understand why people get caught up on the colour of someone's skin
    Neither do I, but look at the exit polling
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    I guess four years ago when Bush and Schumacher won, respectively, it was a good week to be white, huh?

    Should I feel proud every time another white person does something good?

    Collectivism sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    I guess four years ago when Bush and Schumacher won, respectively, it was a good week to be white, huh?

    Should I feel proud every time another white person does something good?

    Collectivism sucks.
    My point exactly.

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    Mr. Obama is just as much white as he is black, isn't he?

    His mother is a white American, and his father a black African.

    I guess he is truly an African-American!





    Collectivism does suck, but at the same time you must admit that there are some strong predjudices out there, with rascism being a rather prevalent one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Collectivism does suck, but at the same time you must admit that there are some strong predjudices out there, with rascism being a rather prevalent one.
    racism is a subset of collectivism. nothing more, nothing less. collectivism is defined by webster as "emphasis on collective rather than individual action or identity"

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    As long as some people can whip others into a frenzy for profit we will have this problem. Here in the states both the Government as well as the media keep this a hot issue always making sure the pot stays stirred, the media sells news and the government garners power!
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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