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    You people are all behind, me'n Brad have already worked things out through PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LX_Emergency View Post
    You people are all behind, me'n Brad have already worked things out through PM.
    True enough. Though my "bull in a china shop" debating technique may leave a few smarting. I apologize and hope to make it clear that my goal is strictly to maintain the original intent of this thread. Anyone who disagrees with me can, er, uh nevermind.

    I am now going to withdraw and go with Basil to the shop for some therapeutic productivity. I have a sticker on my refridgerator that says, "Dear God, Please help me to be the person my dog thinks I am".

    I'm working on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedog View Post
    I have a sticker on my refridgerator that says, "Dear God, Please help me to be the person my dog thinks I am".
    A pretty good moral compass.

    (Since our dog left us last spring, I'd have to think of alternatives. "Please help me to be the person my parakeets think I am" ... hmmm ... no.)

    Anyway--also recalling what I understood as the original spirit of the thread--as a white man I don't think I can fully feel what this election means to African-Americans. But I do feel--along with my conviction that the best candidate, race aside, won--a deep relief that we have crossed some kind of threshold. Not that our racial troubles, inequities, and divisions are behind us by any means. But we have at least journeyed away from that time, not so long ago, when for Barack Obama even to have been a serious candidate for the presidency would have been unthinkable. I heard someone on the radio yesterday say, "America's all grown up now." I wouldn't go so far; maybe no individual and no nation ever gets all grown up. But I do feel that we are growing up.

    ~Rich

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