Thread: Obamas first bad decision.

Originally Posted by Hutch

Jim of course its going to continue the rabid right needs a bogeyman, they had the Soviets, Terrorist, Gays, Socialist (even when they aren't), if they don't have one they'll invent one. I think they find fear sort of titillating in their sexually repressed world.

Well, then, it's very sad. If the Republicans maintain that view, they're going to be marginalized in ways they can't even imagine. They may even fail to survive.

Right now, they're in denial. They're doing everything in their power to claim that their loss was not a referendum on them, but the fault of a "bad candidate" (i.e., McCain). I've got news. He did far better than any Republican had any business doing, when you consider that they've run the country into a very deep ditch. This wasn't a rejection of McCain; it was a rejection of right-wing Republicans. The sooner they recognize that and adapt, the sooner they'll be viable again.

My prediction is that Sarah Palin will be the new Moses of the Republican Party, leading them even deeper into the religious fringes of their "base." And she's about to lead them into the wilderness for the next 40 years.

j

Couldn't agree with you more. If McCain had of stuck to his guns instead of going to bed with the christian right and had of appointed a moderate like Rudy Giuliani, he would have lost the religious radical right but would have been far more palatable to the moderates, and may have given Obama a run for his money.

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

Actually, we're just completing eight years of the party in power saying just that. Ann Coulter even called it treason.

j

Since when do you quote Ann Coulter?

Originally Posted by Hutch

Failure would mean deeper financial hardship for your fellow countrymen, failure internationally would mean more wars that will kill US soldiers, maybe some attacks on the US would top it off for you all. Get real that's what the statement says, failure will have consequences, it's not a game, this isn't monday night mindless football. Maybe the right should grow up and start practicing what their bible preaches.

I missed the part in the Bible where it said to support all the actions of your leader; I also missed the part where the Bible was brought up in this thread. I support him as our leader, but I don't have to like what he does. I sure don't want some of his proposed changes to be made.

What's with the name calling? You're having a conversation with me, not "the right".

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

Since when do you quote Ann Coulter?



I missed the part in the Bible where it said to support all the actions of your leader; I also missed the part where the Bible was brought up in this thread. I support him as our leader, but I don't have to like what he does. I sure don't want some of his proposed changes to be made.

What's with the name calling? You're having a conversation with me, not "the right".

I think what people are saying is that you're rejecting the new administration out of hand, before they even have legislation on the table. Why don't you kick back, take a couple of deep clearing breaths, pop a brewski, mourn a bit for the lost election, and wait to see what's proposed. If it doesn't pass muster with what you think should happen, by all means, make a reasonable counter-proposal and see how they react.

That's how democratic institutions are supposed to work.

And Ann Coulter sells a lot of books to right wingers. Best seller list, as I recall. Must represent somebody.

j

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

Since when do you quote Ann Coulter?



I missed the part in the Bible where it said to support all the actions of your leader; I also missed the part where the Bible was brought up in this thread. I support him as our leader, but I don't have to like what he does. I sure don't want some of his proposed changes to be made.

What's with the name calling? You're having a conversation with me, not "the right".

Orange you did make the original comment. Your approach that you disagree is fine, the other posters position of wishing failure on the country just to prove a point is wrong and you chose to defend it.

I understand that there is disappointment in the fact that McCain/Palin didn't win. I really do hope that with time the emotions will cool, and cooler heads will prevail.

I did not agree with Bush, but never in my wildest dreams did I wish his policies to fail, in fact I wished I was the one that was wrong, and everything would turn out great, unfortunately I wasn't wrong.

Snowboarding.

Originally Posted by driver/examiner

Snowboarding.

Is that like frozen water boarding?

All this personal attacking and elections and stuff makes me sad. Can we please close this thread?

Originally Posted by Hutch

Failure would mean deeper financial hardship for your fellow countrymen, failure internationally would mean more wars that will kill US soldiers, maybe some attacks on the US would top it off for you all. Get real that's what the statement says, failure will have consequences,

Once again I hope his policies fail, dramatically.

His failure to try and stimulate the economy by throwing money at it might mean a few companies would go under but the rest would reorganize and create better practices preventing a reoccurrence of the current situation in the future.

His failure to bring our troops home on his schedule might mean that they are being too successful to make his ideas look good at that time.

His health plan failing to get past the lawmakers will mean that I get to keep controlling my medical choices, not to mention keeping a bigger chunk of my paycheck.

All those consequences are ones I would welcome.


To point at the past for an example: I was glad when Bushes Amnesty failed, dramatically, that was the best thing that could have happened to that ill conceived policy, the consequences to him were the loss of political clout and much public favor, but the consequences to me and the future of our country were all good.

Tim, giving up your freedom in medicine will go down in history as one of the saddest things the American people ever did. You really wonder if all the tears, the blood, the sweat, all that sacrifice of so many of your forefathers was in vain. Seriously.