Thread: The story of thanks giving!

Yes, I'll agree with that. The source I found said that spelling like this was common as the dictionary hadn't been written yet. You'll note when actually reading the document that he spells the same words differently as he goes.

By the way in the original document there is a list of the actual passengers on the Mayflower . . . very cool stuff.

So I guess I'm just stuck.

Mark, what was the original source for all this if not the text itself?

In the mean time I'm just going to assume that the Pilgrims tested out Socialism and moved to Capitalism, but I remain a tad sceptical.

Knowing what I know of the Puritans, now I'm very concerned. Out!

Originally Posted by icedog

Regardless of the swill Mark is trying to sell, Squanto is the real reason we celebrate Thanksgiving:

Thanksgiving on the Net - The Pilgrims and America's First Thanksgiving

I'm always glad when someone so openly enjoys my threads!

Originally Posted by Bruno

That would be communism, not socialism.

This was my very thought when I first read this, but thought I would leave it as it was originally written!

Originally Posted by AFDavis11

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Mark, what was the original source for all this if not the text itself?

Every year for about the last five years I google Captain William Bradford to read some of his journal entries! The ones that Lee posted and the ones specifically on his feelings about plato and collectivism are the ones I generally read!
This year I googled as normal and could not find my usual source or for that matter any source other than the one I copied and pasted in full as the opening post to this thread! I found it on some history forum or something similar, saw that I agreed with the post for the most part and just copied and pasted to start this thread!
Lee helped me to find my usual source, and now I have down loaded it to my computer for future readings!

Originally Posted by JMS

I'm always glad when someone so openly enjoys my threads!

You know I just love perusing the threads you initiate Mark. However, I do want to take this moment to give you proper credit, I used the word "Swill" as a tribute to your keen editorial abilities.

Oh, dude, that is kinda sad. I Googled the original thesis you pushed forward and did get some interesting hits off of some cool political sites. The whole Bradford/Socialism thing.

But, now real life calls back again. I'm glad you have so much time on your hands . . .
there are some pretty wild politcal sites out there you may really enjoy.

Originally Posted by icedog

, I used the word "Swill" as a tribute to your keen editorial abilities.

You and half of SRP Think my opinion is swill! Nothing new here!

Originally Posted by JMS

You and half of SRP Think my opinion is swill! Nothing new here!

Not true! I used the word because you used the word and I wanted to emulate thee.

Originally Posted by icedog

Not true! I used the word because you used the word and I wanted to emulate thee.

Thees and thous will get thee nowhere!

It's interesting that the Puritans fled England due to religious persecution, and yet, ironically, they were one of the most intolerant groups when it came to others religious beliefs.

While Boston was founded by Puritan settlers under the Charter of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, the charter was revoked in 1684 and Massachusetts came under direct British control:

"Although unused to trans-Atlantic interference in their affairs, Bostonians nevertheless enjoyed a flowering of thought and culture never allowed during the years of strict Puritan dominance. As it developed into a major colonial center, Boston was the site of the calling of the nation's first Grand Jury in 1635; the opening of the nation's oldest school, the Boston Latin School, in 1635; the building of the first post office in 1639; the chartering of the colonies' first bank in 1674; the publication of the nation's oldest newspaper, Publick Occurrences Both Forreign and Domestick, banned after one issue in 1690; and the publishing of the nation's first long-running newspaper, the Boston News-Letter, in 1704. By 1750, Boston's population was 15,000 people."
- The Bostonian Society

In Maryland, in 1649, the Assembly passed a law promoting religious tolerance. It promoted the view to the colonists that the best policy was to keep criticisms of others' faiths to themselves, and even levied fines on people who openly denounced others' beliefs, Christian or non-Christian. Also in 1649, Gov. Stone invited around 300 Puritans to come live in Maryland, as they were being persecuted in Virginia. He regretted the decision, for as soon as word reached Maryland that Parliament, under the leadership of Cromwell, had beheaded King Charles I, the Puritans decided they did not want to live under the governorship of a Catholic (Lord Baltimore had founded Maryland as a colony where Catholics could practice their faith openly) and rose in revolt...despite having been given sanctuary by this "Catholic" Governor when they were being persecuted in Virginia. The rebellion carried on for several years until a peace agreement was reached and the colony remained under the control of the Calvert family (Lord Baltimore's family).

And what about Samoset?

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

And what about Samoset?

There was a TV series about him. It was called 77 Samoset Strip