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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben325e View Post
    Can it be banned absolutely? Then who should decide what occurs in instances of rape, incest, etc? I hope that I never have to wear the shoes of that individual.
    Such an individual would have to be convinced of the humanity and individual human rights of the unborn children. How does any previous crime trump an innocent's right to life in a just legal system? Should a single mother struggling just to support herself be allowed to kill her toddler who was produced by a rape or an incest? Are the circumstances surrounding an innocent person more important than the person? I mean, we can't avoid the problem of at what point do the unborn have the right to live. Who or what is it that gives people such rights, and who or what protects them? It all depends on whether or not the unborn children have the same individual human rights as any other child. If that determination can be made, the debate is pretty much over

    And yet all the side arguments continue - what if this happens, what if this happens, without first making a determination of the individual humanity of the unborn.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nord Jim View Post
    How about this one: People who believe that abortion is wrong have the right to convince the rest of the country of that view, provided they use legal means. People who believe otherwise have the same right.
    Only certain people though, I suspect...
    Last edited by hoglahoo; 01-02-2009 at 12:35 PM.
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