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02-18-2009, 08:53 PM #17
I love the spirited discussions here....
(jumps on the soapbox)
I disagree that immigrants have the expectation of the new country to change. Majority of the immigrants who move to a new country have a singular goal and that is to survive in their new environment, to find work to feed themselves and their family. It would be quite silly of them to think they can come into a new society and completely change it. The can and do create small safe havens /communities to preserve some of their culture and to provide a support system as I mentioned earlier.
Say you moved from Alabama to New York, you sure as heck would not expect every New Yorker to start talking with a southern twang, and start drinking ice-tea, eating fried chicken and biscuits, and follow college football like a religion. It ain't happening!!!if you want to try.
No disrespect to anyone from New York or Alabama.
Yes you may find a bar where Alabama fans gather to watch games, suck on some suds and smoke a few stogies...
Very interesting that you mention England. The manner in which England has dealt with its immigrants and the way the United States has dealt with its immigrants the differences are night and day. Here in the US if you worked hard and you had the opportunities to move up in society and make a good life for yourself regardless of your background. Immigrants have done so and succeeded and assimilated. Once again goes back to my point about the equality, fairness and opportunity presented by American society.
Great Britain on the other has still has rampant problems with discrimination and classism , and the problems they are having today is a direct result of these issues. Immigrant communities were isolated and radicalized because of their inability to economically prosper because of discrimination and classism.
Is it not surprising that GB and USA have very large Muslim populations yet radicalization has been a problem for GB and not the USA...Last edited by Amyn; 02-18-2009 at 09:01 PM.