Thread: 37 terrorist training camps in the US!

First of all I wish to ponit out that islamists are more of a threat to other muslims than they are to americans, europeans etc.

Second most muslims believe these groups and the people who believe in their ideologies are idiots. Most muslims are against them and we must not think of muslims as one homogeneous group, furthermore we must not link all muslims with these groups and with terrorists.

But having terrorists in america, even radical islamists is nothing new really. And of course these things have to be dealt with (according to law and order). What is more frightening in my opinion is not a few bearded suckers with guns. It is rather the radical islamist ideas that are being spread by these groups that are alarming. The guns are easy to deal with, the ideas and propaganda are not!

Lastly I wish to question the source, the Christian action network.. sound and looks a little suspicious to me. I'm not saying they are wrong but they need to be questioned, what are their motives for example?

Originally Posted by Earthdawn

I know bout nothin' But I do know the white supremacists haven pulled off anything like planes into buildings etc so i think thats why they dont have the same outrage effect here.

just a thought

Wasn't Timothy McVeigh a member of some paramilitary unit?

Actually this story broke on TV a few years ago.

not good..not good at all

37? Really? I wish sane Americans were so proactive in atempting to change America.

Originally Posted by Chady

That's because they're flying planes into buildings all the time, all of them.

..........i lol'd

Originally Posted by jockeys

..........i lol'd

I thought it was a reference to realultimatepower.net.

The camps aren't really a surprise to me at all.
I am a bit surprised by the responses here.

It seems many are still so tied into either a hero worship of Taliban, etc etc in some sort of romantic ideal that these [radicalized murder squads...with weapons training ]have been made out to be, by various media and other politically motivated entities.

Funny, where were the people praising the Taliban fighters when their only "adversaries" were unarmed women, or people suspected of being Christians? Is shooting an unarmed woman in the head for alleged adultery (or stoning her to death, perhaps) the new definition of someone "fighting for what he believes in"? Beheading barbers for daring to offer a shave? Odd...for someone with supposed overwhelming popular support, one would think Afghans would welcom the talibs back with open arms...so why all the force in the few areas they control, hmm? maybe they aren't as popular in their own country as some here believe?

How about the video above. Men training, not to engage military forces necessarily, but civilians, practicing tactics that create hysteria? That is textbook terrorism.

If they are in our country practicing arms to support another organization which is set to harm the populace, then if these are citizens and come peaceably, their trial will tell much; if they are not citizens, at the first solid evidence they were moving to harm a single civilian here, they should be shot dead.
Props for setting up a camp in the country of their enemy...took guts...but there is a war going on and people die. I would just as soon it be them, if that is their intent, rather than the neighbors.


There seems to be far too much generalization here. If these people are terrorists, then they are terrorists. It has nothing to do with whether they are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, or whatever. Would it have mattered if the men who had murdered Nick Berg, or the more recent murder of a Polish man, had all been Animists, from Canada and Denmark? No. They are murderers. Calling them "terrorists" is simply the application of the proper terminology. This defensiveness on behalf of Muslims every time someone finds a terror camp or someone blows up a night club, embassy, or what not, is ridiculous IMHO.
Muslims are not the problem; many are fighting (yes on OUR side...sorry guys if you were pulling for the woman murdering "underdogs" this time) in the war on terror or simply to keep control of their brand new countries.

The video is what it is; when there is videography of a paramilitary training organization, with apparently less than friendly intentions to its neighbors, whose members are suddenly secretive when actually asked about it....is not quite on the "up and up". Their camp may be legal, (if the trainees are all citizens for instance, and they do not intend harm on the US populace...) but this is IMHO highly unlikely in this case.



John P.

Originally Posted by JohnP

The camps aren't really a surprise to me at all.
I am a bit surprised by the responses here.

It seems many are still so tied into either a hero worship of Taliban, etc etc in some sort of romantic ideal that these [radicalized murder squads...with weapons training ]have been made out to be, by various media and other politically motivated entities.

Funny, where were the people praising the Taliban fighters when their only "adversaries" were unarmed women, or people suspected of being Christians? Is shooting an unarmed woman in the head for alleged adultery (or stoning her to death, perhaps) the new definition of someone "fighting for what he believes in"? Beheading barbers for daring to offer a shave? Odd...for someone with supposed overwhelming popular support, one would think Afghans would welcom the talibs back with open arms...so why all the force in the few areas they control, hmm? maybe they aren't as popular in their own country as some here believe?

How about the video above. Men training, not to engage military forces necessarily, but civilians, practicing tactics that create hysteria? That is textbook terrorism.

If they are in our country practicing arms to support another organization which is set to harm the populace, then if these are citizens and come peaceably, their trial will tell much; if they are not citizens, at the first solid evidence they were moving to harm a single civilian here, they should be shot dead.
Props for setting up a camp in the country of their enemy...took guts...but there is a war going on and people die. I would just as soon it be them, if that is their intent, rather than the neighbors.


There seems to be far too much generalization here. If these people are terrorists, then they are terrorists. It has nothing to do with whether they are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, or whatever. Would it have mattered if the men who had murdered Nick Berg, or the more recent murder of a Polish man, had all been Animists, from Canada and Denmark? No. They are murderers. Calling them "terrorists" is simply the application of the proper terminology. This defensiveness on behalf of Muslims every time someone finds a terror camp or someone blows up a night club, embassy, or what not, is ridiculous IMHO.
Muslims are not the problem; many are fighting (yes on OUR side...sorry guys if you were pulling for the woman murdering "underdogs" this time) in the war on terror or simply to keep control of their brand new countries.

The video is what it is; when there is videography of a paramilitary training organization, with apparently less than friendly intentions to its neighbors, whose members are suddenly secretive when actually asked about it....is not quite on the "up and up". Their camp may be legal, (if the trainees are all citizens for instance, and they do not intend harm on the US populace...) but this is IMHO highly unlikely in this case.



John P.

You have been missed John! Thanks for your thoughts!!

Originally Posted by JohnP

How about the video above. Men training, not to engage military forces necessarily, but civilians, practicing tactics that create hysteria? That is textbook terrorism.

No. That's the 2nd amendement in action.
It's only because these are muslims that everybody is getting their panties into a twist.
As long as they do not engage in terrorist actions, these are no different from their white or black counterparts