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03-22-2009, 04:27 PM #21Senior Member
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Normally, I would agree with you, however, that is why I mentioned the difference (if these are citizens) and who they intend to fight. If they were intending to fight government troops (from here or some other nation) in defense of their communities...yes, that is (in my opinion anyway) what the 2nd Amendment is about. However, if they are training to wreak havoc in the civilian populace...that is completely different. They have a right to assemble, a right to own and train with their arms...([i]IF they are citizens, anyway[i]) but not to murder their neighbors or cause hysteria.
Originally Posted by Bruno
While it is agreed citizens of our various countries have rights, we aren't in the business (or shouldn't be) of guaranteeing citizens of OTHER nations to take them from ours.
Having a right to something doesn't mean it should be GIVEN to someone, only that he or she can strive to attain it. The government isn't handing out too many rifles these days to civilians, after all...
that's mostly why I think there is a difference. Murderers prior to committing their crime, may have a right to own certain arms. They are not however given the right to commit murder. It's a fine line to me, anyway.
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03-24-2009, 02:49 AM #22Usagi Yojimbo
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Just found this if anyone is interested:
FOXNews.com - Quiet Muslim-Only Town in N.Y. Founded by Alleged Terrorist - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
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03-24-2009, 06:13 PM #23
Just to play devil's advocate for a moment: I am willing to bet that similar christian fundamentalist communities exist in the southwest. These people are no different. Originally Posted by JMS
As long as they respect the laws and don't conspire to commit terrorism, they do no wrong.Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
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03-24-2009, 08:25 PM #24Shaves like a pirate
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didn't stop janet reno and the atf from utterly destroying THEM, either, just down the road from me a few years back Originally Posted by Bruno
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03-24-2009, 09:17 PM #25
This is where the crowd goes Oooooooooh, takes a step back and tries to see as much as possible Originally Posted by jockeys
didn't stop janet reno and the atf from utterly destroying THEM, either, just down the road from me a few years back
Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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03-25-2009, 02:16 AM #26Usagi Yojimbo
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The community itself is no problem, Its the man who is starting these communities which is bothersome. Originally Posted by Bruno
Federal authorities say Gilani was also one of the founders of Jamaat al-Fuqra, a terrorist organization believed responsible for dozens of bombings and murders across the U.S. and abroad. The group was linked to the planning of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and 10 years earlier a member was arrested and later convicted for bombing a hotel in Portland, Ore.
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