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    Quote Originally Posted by highball View Post
    Most think that the trails are the result of additives to the fuel. Water vapor turned to ice, does not spread out over a couple hour period and turn into clouds. The barium is needed in the stratus levels to aid in weather modification experiments like the ones done by HAARP.

    This is a link to the HAARP web site
    HAARP Home Page

    The HAARP patent includes a proposal to release large clouds of barium in order to increase electron precipitation
    EASTLUND HAARP BARIUM electomagnetic weapons chemtrails

    Actually, most think it's water vapor from the burning of jet fuel in jet engines. There is also soot in there as well, which would cause further condensation and cloud formation.

    Do you think that the folks involved in HAARP at the University of Alaska are somehow secretly trying to seed the atmosphere with barium? If so, why? The Patent seems to to have to do with ionospheric research, not some sinister government conspiracy. If you think it is a nefarious plot, you need more than jet trails in the sky if you want to prove it to me or anyone else who's even mildly skeptical.

    I'm not naive, I know that our government's been involved in some really underhanded $#!+, hell, I've even been involved in some of it, but when they get caught (and they always do), there's generally been a lot more evidence than a few peoples impression that contrails seem to stay around longer than they remember from some vague point in the past. Extrordinary claims require extrodinary proof.

    I don't mean to sound like a jerk here, I think people should keep a close eye on the government. It's essential in a democracy. But I think this sort of "shadowy conspiracy" rubbish is actually a distraction from the real issues that this country, and our world, faces. We should be asking our government why we're back to negotiating with the Taliban, not if they're trying to sneak somethig into the atmosphere. Look at all the crap we're putting into the air every day with the sources that we know about.

    Sorry, I ranted again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joesixpack View Post
    It's essential in a democracy. .

    Sorry, I ranted again...
    Well said, except we are a supposed to be a Republic.
    Republic's are ruled by law. In a Democracy, power is held by the majority

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    Quote Originally Posted by joesixpack View Post
    I don't mean to sound like a jerk here.......... But I think this sort of "shadowy conspiracy" rubbish is actually a distraction from the real issues that this country, and our world, faces.


    Right
    Imagine if these wingnuts went after A REAL issue !
    Like Fannie and Freddie.

    Oh the horror !!!! (and the barium)



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    Quote Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr View Post
    Right
    Imagine if these wingnuts went after A REAL issue !
    Like Fannie and Freddie.
    Oh my God, Hell yes. There is way more than enough government and corporate hanky panky going on. We shouldn't have to invent evil plots, there are ample real ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joesixpack View Post
    Oh my God, Hell yes. There is way more than enough government and corporate hanky panky going on. We shouldn't have to invent evil plots, there are ample real ones.
    JFK said it best in his speech to the press

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    Quote Originally Posted by joesixpack View Post
    Oh my God, Hell yes. There is way more than enough government and corporate hanky panky going on. We shouldn't have to invent evil plots, there are ample real ones.
    It's been said that if they can get you asking the wrong questions, then they don't have to worry about the answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr View Post
    It's been said that if they can get you asking the wrong questions, then they don't have to worry about the answers.


    Is it me, GWH or have you been MIA for a while? If so welcome back if not...well, I'm getting older

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