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    Default Overpopulation....a threat or a myth?

    I've always been interested in world trends, etc. It seems an issue having no shortage of renowned and super-rich proponents across the planet is overpopulation. From Ted Turner, Bill and Melinda Gates, Warren Buffett, The Rockefeller Foundation to name a few. I recently read some quote where Ted Turner has said that the ideal world population would be 300-500 million or approx 5-8% of the current world population.

    I don't know how credible the math used in this site is, but I found it interesting: Overpopulation - Myth & Reality

    Maybe it's not as critical an issue as a number of the super-rich apparently feel it is or maybe it's not an issue at all?

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    Thats so yesterday! They addressed this problem in "Soylent Green"

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    You'll have to excuse me if I missed some points in the article, because I skimmed the second half. The article seems to address overpopuladion from a standpoint of population density. And, on that point, the article seems to present a valid argument against the threat of overpopulation.

    But there are other issues, such as resource utilization or enviornmental impact (I'll admit, I'm having trouble thinking of others off the top of my head).

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    I expect a crash between 2035-2050 at our current rate of growth
    closer to 2050

    I intend to live somewhere that if the whole world stops, my garden will just keep growing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holli4pirating View Post
    You'll have to excuse me if I missed some points in the article, because I skimmed the second half. The article seems to address overpopuladion from a standpoint of population density. And, on that point, the article seems to present a valid argument against the threat of overpopulation.

    But there are other issues, such as resource utilization or enviornmental impact (I'll admit, I'm having trouble thinking of others off the top of my head).
    True, but my intent in posting about overpopulation and an apparent mathematically based argument against at least one facet of its validity was just that.

    Human impact or lack of impact on climate change, I'll leave someone else to broach that subject since my guess is that it's one of those things that could be endlessly debated on both sides even more so than overpopulation IMO.

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    Ah, I just meant to say that overpopulation ties into a number of other issues and has facets beyond population density; but I see your point.

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    If you lived in Miami,FL in the 1950s and then went back now you would begin to see the problem. Here is a broadcast of the Diane Rehm show addressing the issue. Dr Paul Erlich, author of "The Population Bomb", is one of the participants. All I can say is I'm glad I'm an old guy on my way out.
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    Thanks for bringing to mind the fact, and I agree with you, that overpopulation as a concept is multidimensional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    Dr Paul Erlich, author of "The Population Bomb", is one of the participants.
    Yikes, Jimmy. I have not read his book but in the little I've read of him, that guy scares me!

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    In his concluding chapter, Dr. Ehrlich offered a partial solution to the "population problem":
    "(We need) compulsory birth regulation... (through) the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired family size".[9]






    Sounds very Eugenic which gives me the shivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yikes, Jimmy. I have not read his book but in the little I've read of him, that guy scares me! Chris L
    He scared a lot of people, including me, when he wrote his original book in the late '60s. His predictions didn't come to pass but he is still going strong with more books predicting dire consequences. I can only hope he is wrong again but it is a small planet.
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