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05-12-2009, 03:52 AM #1
Overpopulation....a threat or a myth?
I've always been interested in world trends, etc. It seems an issue having no shortage of renowned and super-rich proponents across the planet is overpopulation. From Ted Turner, Bill and Melinda Gates, Warren Buffett, The Rockefeller Foundation to name a few. I recently read some quote where Ted Turner has said that the ideal world population would be 300-500 million or approx 5-8% of the current world population.
I don't know how credible the math used in this site is, but I found it interesting: Overpopulation - Myth & Reality
Maybe it's not as critical an issue as a number of the super-rich apparently feel it is or maybe it's not an issue at all?
Chris L"Blues fallin' down like hail." Robert Johnson
"Aw, Pretty Boy, can't you show me nuthin but surrender?" Patti Smith
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05-12-2009, 03:56 AM #2
Thats so yesterday! They addressed this problem in "Soylent Green"
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05-12-2009, 04:16 AM
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You'll have to excuse me if I missed some points in the article, because I skimmed the second half. The article seems to address overpopuladion from a standpoint of population density. And, on that point, the article seems to present a valid argument against the threat of overpopulation.
But there are other issues, such as resource utilization or enviornmental impact (I'll admit, I'm having trouble thinking of others off the top of my head).
05-12-2009, 04:21 AM
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I expect a crash between 2035-2050 at our current rate of growth
closer to 2050
I intend to live somewhere that if the whole world stops, my garden will just keep growing.
05-12-2009, 04:25 AM
#5
True, but my intent in posting about overpopulation and an apparent mathematically based argument against at least one facet of its validity was just that.
Human impact or lack of impact on climate change, I'll leave someone else to broach that subject since my guess is that it's one of those things that could be endlessly debated on both sides even more so than overpopulation IMO.
Chris L
"Blues fallin' down like hail." Robert Johnson
"Aw, Pretty Boy, can't you show me nuthin but surrender?" Patti Smith
05-12-2009, 04:29 AM
#6
Ah, I just meant to say that overpopulation ties into a number of other issues and has facets beyond population density; but I see your point.
05-12-2009, 04:35 AM
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If you lived in Miami,FL in the 1950s and then went back now you would begin to see the problem. Here is a broadcast of the Diane Rehm show addressing the issue. Dr Paul Erlich, author of "The Population Bomb", is one of the participants. All I can say is I'm glad I'm an old guy on my way out.![]()
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
05-12-2009, 04:36 AM
#8
Thanks for bringing to mind the fact, and I agree with you, that overpopulation as a concept is multidimensional.
Chris L
"Blues fallin' down like hail." Robert Johnson
"Aw, Pretty Boy, can't you show me nuthin but surrender?" Patti Smith
05-12-2009, 04:45 AM
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Yikes, Jimmy. I have not read his book but in the little I've read of him, that guy scares me!
Taken from Wikipedia:
In his concluding chapter, Dr. Ehrlich offered a partial solution to the "population problem":
"(We need) compulsory birth regulation... (through) the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired family size".[9]
Sounds very Eugenic which gives me the shivers.
Chris L
"Blues fallin' down like hail." Robert Johnson
"Aw, Pretty Boy, can't you show me nuthin but surrender?" Patti Smith
05-12-2009, 05:39 AM
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Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.