Thread: A little history of the origins of the Democrat and Republican parties

Some of us older gents know the history I am about to present because history was still taught in school when we were youngins, but I am not certain how many of the 30 plus and under crowd know this so I thought I would enlighten them!

Part 1 :Drenched in blood of slavery

Part 2 :Drenched in blood of slavery, Part II

Enjoy and be nice.

Oh, history...that thing that teaches us that the fathers of the Republic were rapist slave holders.

While much of what is in these two articles is true, little of it rises to the level of history.

Interesting that the Southern Democrats went republican after President Lyndon Johnson pushed through the civil rights legislation in 1964. Reagan announced that he was running for president in Philadelphia , Mississippi. That is where the three civil rights workers were murdered in the the early '60s. I wonder who he was pandering to with that ? The republican party does have a record of compassionate conservatism being against civil rights (Goldwater) social security, Medicare. and on and on. Not that I am partisan, my voter's registration says "no party affiliation". The two parties are made up of millionaires whose main concern is getting reelected. What do they know about worrying about paying a mortgage and keeping health insurance? End of rant.

I need to know more about the events and reasons that led up to the transition from the Democratic-Replublican Party to the Democratic party. The events are a little bit hazzy to me.

Again, I do not understand the events surrounding the transition. From what I understand this article is putting matters a bit to simplistic. History is never that easy. This what I understand, and I am not saying that this is correct:

The Demoractic party is actually older than the GOP is and stems from the Democratic-Republican Party which was formed as an oposition to the Federalist party early on in the political history of the US. The central issue was the concentration of authority in the hands of the central government. Federalist favored a strong central government while the Democratice-Republicans were more warry of the central government. Slavery was not really an issue to the Democratic-Republicans who later changed their name droping the words Republicans, I do not understand why the name was changed or the events surrounding the change. I am also told that Lincon was nto the first republican presidential candidate, there was one before him who was saddled by his role as a third party candidate.

Again this is what I think I know, I could very likely be not correct.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Interesting that the Southern Democrats went republican after President Lyndon Johnson pushed through the civil rights legislation in 1964. Reagan announced that he was running for president in Philadelphia , Mississippi. That is where the three civil rights workers were murdered in the the early '60s. I wonder who he was pandering to with that ? The republican party does have a record of compassionate conservatism being against civil rights (Goldwater) social security, Medicare. and on and on. Not that I am partisan, my voter's registration says "no party affiliation". The two parties are made up of millionaires whose main concern is getting reelected. What do they know about worrying about paying a mortgage and keeping health insurance? End of rant.

IIRC The democrats fought Johnson and it was the republicans who got the legislation through. I will agree that many dems jumped boat in '64 but a lot of that was due to Johnsons rise to power after JFKs death. Like Jimmy I am not affiliated with either party, they both have left the voter behind in favor of the riches to be gained. I am not bashing anything Jimmy said, hes got a couple of years on me and probably remembers better than I, its just my perspective.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

IIRC The democrats fought Johnson and it was the republicans who got the legislation through. I will agree that many dems jumped boat in '64 but a lot of that was due to Johnsons rise to power after JFKs death. Like Jimmy I am not affiliated with either party, they both have left the voter behind in favor of the riches to be gained. I am not bashing anything Jimmy said, hes got a couple of years on me and probably remembers better than I, its just my perspective.

In '48 President Truman tried to get some civil rights legislation passed. Democrat senator Strom Thurmond formed the Dixiecrat party and ran against him as third party candidate. He didn't win of course but he didn't change party affiliation until '64.

Most if not all of the deep south democrat senators switched parties after Johnson signed the legislation that only he with his skill and knowledge and experience as senate leader could have gotten through the senate. He told his aide, Bill Moyers, at that time that he knew the democrats would lose the south for decades and they did.
I grew up in the south during segragation and it is hard to imagine what it was like if you weren't alive and there at the time. Different world for sure and at least in that respect a better one now than then.

Age before beauty, sir I concede, the floor is yours!




Edit: I can remember Harry taking his walks in the afternoon when I was a kid in Independence, but I dont go as far back as his Presidency!

why can't we all just get along?


why must we let the rich people try to turn us against each other?

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

why can't we all just get along?


why must we let the rich people try to turn us against each other?

In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.