Thread: Constitutionality of Obamacare

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

All I know is that I have given everyone else a bailout, wheres mine?!

Same place mine is!!!!

Although I do agree there is need for us to do something, our Constitution is still the governing document for all we do. I do agree with the judge's reasoning. There is nowhere in either the Commerce section that defines inactivity, or not participating in commercial activity, as being activity; or the taxation section defining this as a tax. In fact, the word tax is not used in the law. It is a "penalty" which is trying to be defined in the law to be a tax. Non-participation is not a tax, but a penalty for not participating.

Originally Posted by dward

Although I do agree there is need for us to do something, our Constitution is still the governing document for all we do.

That's a debate in and of itself.

Now why do we need healthcare reform when I can go to the hospital and get treated for free and the rust of you suckers pay for it?

Originally Posted by dward

Although I do agree there is need for us to do something, our Constitution is still the governing document for all we do. I do agree with the judge's reasoning. There is nowhere in either the Commerce section that defines inactivity, or not participating in commercial activity, as being activity; or the taxation section defining this as a tax. In fact, the word tax is not used in the law. It is a "penalty" which is trying to be defined in the law to be a tax. Non-participation is not a tax, but a penalty for not participating.

Does that mean I don't pay taxes just a Penalty? WOW, now I feel SOOO much better!!

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Now why do we need healthcare reform when I can go to the hospital and get treated for free and the rust of you suckers pay for it?

Your welcome!!

Judge Rules Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional - FoxNews.com

Another determination that Obamacare is unconstitutional, and struck down the entire law, as the individual mandate is not severable from the entire law.

I can't wait to hear what the Supremes have to say about this.

Matt

Originally Posted by mhailey

Judge Rules Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional - FoxNews.com

Another determination that Obamacare is unconstitutional, and struck down the entire law, as the individual mandate is not severable from the entire law.

I can't wait to hear what the Supremes have to say about this.

Matt

These terms crack me up. How come you don't call it Romneycare? He signed the same long-standing Republican idea of insurance mandates into Massachusetts health care reform.

"You're not willing to compromise!"
"Fine, we'll put in a few of your ideas..."
"BUT THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!"

Originally Posted by commiecat

These terms crack me up. How come you don't call it Romneycare? He signed the same long-standing Republican idea of insurance mandates into Massachusetts health care reform.

"You're not willing to compromise!"
"Fine, we'll put in a few of your ideas..."
"BUT THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!"

compromise? for the zero republican votes in the house or was the compromise to secure the zero republican senate votes?

Your conversation should go like this:

Repubs: "You're not willing to compromise!"

Dems" "that's right, we are going to ram it down your throat, whether you like it or not, and use 'reconciliation' to further end run around the will of the people, because we know better than them."

The people: "that's unconstitutional!"

The Judge: "Yep, unconstitutional"


Edit: to correct the votes in the house. Not one Republican voted for it, as indicated here: http://www.heartland.org/healthpolic...Obamacare.html

Yup, unconstitutional. More than that I won't add as I've learned that too much opinon above and beyond shaving related subjects tends to put me on the fast track to a lifetime ban.