Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
The founding fathers put off abolishing slavery. The civil war was fought after the war for independance. And apparently, Lincoln even regretted having to abolish slavery.

So don't act as if the men of that time were all upstanding gentleman who had nothing but the best interest of their fellow men at heart. They were just men. The majority of white men at that time either supported slavery, or didn't care either way.
Is that why so many died in that bloody war Bruno?

You'll have to give me something on your Lincoln statement.

By the way Bruno, are all Europeans so jaded and cynical? Is their any love or hope for whats right or is it a given among Europeans that all is for selfish and self serving purposes?