Thread: Our fearless leader...

Originally Posted by commiecat

The Nobel Peace Prize has historically been given to people not for their actions, but for their determination and beliefs:

1919 - Woodrow Wilson, for his role in forming the League of Nations. The League of Nations was supposed to prevent future wars.
1935 - Carl von Ossietzky, for symbolizing domestic opposition to Hitler's rise. Hitler was in power until 1945.
1984 - Desmund Tutu, for leading the campaign to end apartheid in South Africa. Apartheid did not end until 1994.
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi, for fighting for democracy in Burma. Burma was, and still is, governed under a military junta.
2002 - Jimmy Carter, for efforts to promote peace in the Middle East. We know where that stands currently.
2003 - Shirin Ebadi, for her women's rights efforts in Iran.

Also, this is taken from his acceptance speech:





I thought it odd that he won as well, but there is a precedent for this and even he acknowledged it.

What's odd is that you claim that the Nobel prize is given not for actions, then you proceed to give examples of individuals who's actions (see bold in red) earned them the prize.

Originally Posted by honedright

What's odd is that you claim that the Nobel prize is given not for actions, then you proceed to give examples of individuals who's actions (see bold in red) earned them the prize.

So now we're going to argue semantics? It's an action to say your intentions. People against Obama winning the award cite that he's only said he wants to do things, without actually doing them. I'm pointing out that by that logic; Wilson didn't deserve it because his action failed, and Ossietzky and Tutu should have received their awards 10 years afterwards. What do you tell Ebadi and Kyi when they haven't changed a thing? Should the election committee wait to see if either achieves their goal, or do you give them the award for trying?

@sparq -- if you can't comprehend my posts then please refrain from replying to them. I wasn't comparing their life situations FFS -- I was citing people who got the award years before their belief/movement came to fruition. Talk about propaganda.