Thread: Gate Crashers

Originally Posted by JMS

Has anyone seen the emails that appear to suggest they were actually invited?

Not at this point. They did an interview this morning and keep stating they've got the emails and have given copies to the SS but that's it.

Originally Posted by DistortedPenguin

Not at this point. They did an interview this morning and keep stating they've got the emails and have given copies to the SS but that's it.

FOX has published them on their website but I can't link from my phone

Originally Posted by JMS

FOX has published them on their website but I can't link from my phone

I've been half-way watching Fox all night and didn't know that. Let me look.

No that was the email(s) between the Salahi's and Pentagon official Michaele Jones. Jones was trying to get them access but was unable to.

JMS,

Excerpts are as follows:

Friday, Nov. 20, 4:15 p.m.
To the Salahis' attorney Paul Gardner from his office manager Rosalind Tyner.
Michele S. Jones just called regarding the state dinner at the White House for Tuesday, Nov. 24, 2009. I need the following information from Tareq and Michaele Salahi immediately so she can submit their information before 5 p.m. today. Full name, Social Security number, date of birth, citizenship.
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Friday, Nov. 20, 4:33 p.m.
From Tareq Salahi to Rosalind Tyner, Paul Gardner
Hi Team THANK YOU!!! We are very much looking forward to it!
(Salahi sends Social Security number, date of birth and citizenship for himself and his wife)
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Friday, Nov. 20, 4:49 p.m.
From Michele Jones to Tareq Salahi
Hopefully I can get tickets for the arrival ceremony ... the state dinner is completely closed and has been for awhile. As soon as I know, I will contact you.
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Monday, Nov. 23, 11 a.m.
From Tareq Salahi to Michele Jones
In preparations for tomorrow, do you know what time we would need to be there, and which entrance we should go through?
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Monday, Nov. 23, 4:12 p.m.
From Michele Jones to Tareq Salahi
I am still hoping that I can get tickets for the arrival ceremony tomorrow. They do have your information in the event that extra tickets become available and will notify me immediately. I still haven't given up, but it doesn't seem likely.
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Monday, Nov. 23, 4:51 p.m.
From Tareq Salahi to Michele Jones
By the way -- I know for a fact that these persons are unable to attend the state dinner and the reception portion:
1.) Sen. Harry Reid and his wife (they have gone home early for Thanksgiving).
2.) Kuma Gupta and husband (unable to travel to D.C. tomorrow)
3.) Bob Stevens and his wife (top brass from Lockheed Martin)
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Tuesday, Nov. 24, 8:46 a.m.
From Michele Jones to Tareq Salahi
The arrival ceremony (was scheduled to be outdoors) was canceled due to inclement weather. They are having a very small one inside the WH, very limited space. I am still working on tickets for tonight's dinner. I will call or e-mail as soon as I get word one way or another.
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Wednesday, Nov. 25, 1:03 a.m.
From Michaele and Tareq Salahi to Michele Jones
Hi Michele,
You are an angel!
My cell phone battery died early this evening while we were in D.C. from our country home, so I just got your message now after driving back out. But obviously it worked out at the end.... We ended up going to the gate to check in at 6:30 p.m. to just check, in case it got approved, since we didn't know, and our name was indeed on the list! We are very grateful, and God bless you.
We just got home, and we had a very wonderful evening as you can imagine!
Look forward to seeing you very soon. Say when for dinner -- we can't wait to see you and catch up and share memories of true lifetime.
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Wednesday, Nov. 25, 1:38 p.m.
From Michele Jones to Tareq Salahi
Tareq,
You are most welcome! I here the smile in your e-mail and am delighted that you and Michaele had a wonderful time. :-)
Have an extraordinary Thanksgiving and many blessings to you both!
Much love,
Michele

I think the secret service screwed up.
Luckily, the partycrashers were benign, and it probably would not have worked for non-white people.

Or you can say it's analogous to

Your locks are faulty, so a stranger just stops by your place and since it's open they go inside your home and have a nice time.

Certainly the company that installed your faulty locks is liable, but then are the strangers who just walked through the door liable too?

I have no clue and suspect it depends on the jurisdiction.

Except it is a party. And they say 'we were invited, let me in'. And the people in charge of the logistics say 'ok, come right in'.

Technically they were not invited, BUT they were granted access by people with the authority to do so. I suppose they could be charged with 'lying about an invitation'...

To translate to your analogy: this would be like the burglar trying to open your door, finding it unlocked, and then waking you up to request entry. And then you say 'I don't see why you should be here, but come right in, the stereo's over there'.

I agree. Although these people should be in trouble for lying about being invited...

It's the guys that did security that should be in the real trouble. It was their responsibility and they failed.

There are a collection of people who have made it their business to act like professional gatecrashers. Usually they go to celebrity type events and use a variety of social engineering techniques to get in though some will try to circumvent security.

In this case its different because the President was involved and security should have been airtight. I doubt they could be prosecuted for anything since they went through security. However, some Secret Service Supervisor will find himself counting counterfeit one dollar bills in Detroit for the balance of his career.