Thread: Dark Matter

Scientifically speaking, dark matter and presence of God are something that should not be compared.
While it is true that dark matter is a theory that only explains things that can't be explained otherwise. Ok you got me in this, but as the scientific researches go on, we will get more information, little by little, is there such thing at all or is it something else not yet discovered.

That is where it differs from God. Of course you knew that

Originally Posted by Sailor

Scientifically speaking, dark matter and presence of God are something that should not be compared.
While it is true that dark matter is a theory that only explains things that can't be explained otherwise. Ok you got me in this, but as the scientific researches go on, we will get more information, little by little, is there such thing at all or is it something else not yet discovered.

That is where it differs from God. Of course you knew that

Is that so very different after all?

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Is that so very different after all?

Maybe the difference is that dark matter will get a scientific explanation sooner or later. The same wont happen with God (or if does, then he/she/it has found his scientific limits as well and will not be almighty anymore = no God at all).
Maybe we should worship Newton

Originally Posted by Seraphim

So, scientifically speaking, dark matter is about as observable as the presence of God?

Theoretical
Undetectable
Presence can be inferred from...
"could account for..."

You glossed over the most important part - 'effects on visible matter'
Now you can argue whether God has any such effect or it is a wishful thinking, make believe and just human psychology.
But yes, dark matter is probably just another way of saying that there are things that are not completely explained by the current science. Same argument, actually, used to explain any 'odd' things about God (humans just can't comprehend it).

But I do have a couple of pitchers full of water in the kitchen, so feel free to convert them into Montrachet any time. As far as I remember that's the very first thing a man called Jesus allegedly did as evidence of being God. I'm pretty sure if God is on the same level as dark matter repeatability is not going to be an issue.

Originally Posted by gugi

You glossed over the most important part - 'effects on visible matter'
Now you can argue whether God has any such effect or it is a wishful thinking, make believe and just human psychology.
But yes, dark matter is probably just another way of saying that there are things that are not completely explained by the current science. Same argument, actually, used to explain any 'odd' things about God (humans just can't comprehend it).

But I do have a couple of pitchers full of water in the kitchen, so feel free to convert them into Montrachet any time. As far as I remember that's the very first thing a man called Jesus allegedly did as evidence of being God. I'm pretty sure if God is on the same level as dark matter repeatability is not going to be an issue.

You're asking the wrong guy. But I can give you the name of Someone to contact if you're truly interested!

Everyone chooses their God. Just some are more overt about it than others. And some are more optimistic than others (I think I prefer the mindset of people who choose the "great unknown" to be immeasurable love over those who choose it to be the remainder of an equation that did not quite give the expected results in a computer simulation).

James.

Now I see.......

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Now I see.......

At least it's an improvement over replacing the whole thing with "miracle"!

From the NASA website:

Remarkably, it turns out there is five times more material in clusters of galaxies than we would expect from the galaxies and hot gas we can see. Most of the stuff in clusters of galaxies is invisible and, since these are the largest structures in the Universe held together by gravity, scientists then conclude that most of the matter in the entire Universe is invisible.

There you have it folks, from top-notch scientists themselves. The invisible pink unicorn is therefore a scientifically defendable possibility.


From Wiki:

Only about 4.6% of the mass of Universe is ordinary matter. About 23% is thought to be composed of dark matter. The remaining 72% is thought to consist of dark energy, an even stranger component, distributed diffusely in spac

Only 4.6% of the universe is possibly directly observable, yet rational thinking and the scientific method thereby preclude the existance of God?

Who's the one with the imaginary friend in the sky now?

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Originally Posted by gugi

But I do have a couple of pitchers full of water in the kitchen, so feel free to convert them into Montrachet any time.

You're asking the wrong guy. But I can give you the name of Someone to contact if you're truly interested!

Give me 10 minutes to stock up on water first.... OK the bathtub's getting filled up as I type, so yes I'm ready!

I guess you're convinced because you did an experiment and it worked for you. At least twice. I've seen enough of experimental claims that nobody else was ever been able to reproduce, that I'm skeptical.
But, I certainly keep an open mind and a whole lot of tap water!