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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    There you have it folks, from top-notch scientists themselves. The invisible pink unicorn is therefore a scientifically defendable possibility.
    It's comforting to know that God is at least as likely as an invisible pink unicorn. I'm glad we can establish that much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    If you are trying to explain the existence of God(s) with dark matter, you are doing yourself a bad favor.
    There are surely blanks, and even errors in scientific calculators, but as the time goes by they will get explanation.
    That is not the same with religion. People in faith do not have blanks or errors.

    I never repeat myself and now i do it again Faith doesn't need scientific proof. All you need to do is believe and that's it.
    That is not the same with sciences. All the blanks and errors need reassessment and more calculations. Not closing eyes.
    Those who in faith believe there was a dude who could wake up people from the death. Those who rely on science know he had a defibrillator.
    There was a couple who underwent fertility testing, and were said to not be able to have any children. The woman was 42 at the time, with a large fibroid tumor on her uterus. The levels were so low that they wouldn't even approve hormone shots, in vitro, or any of the other methods employed in these situations. The couple went to quite a number of top-flight specialst doctors in the field, always with the same result-"no kids, learn to live with that".

    They went to a monastery where they had a piece of the Cross of Christ, and were blessed with it. Soon thereafter, they became pregnant and had a son!

    "Coincidence! Surely a statistical anomaly!"


    Yet, the couple again visits a monastery to ask for prayers for another child. The week they return home they discover they are again pregnant. The woman was now 44, do you think her scientifically measureable fertility levels had increased in the intervening two years? In addition, the woman never ovulated again after the birth of her second child.


    Not just a story I read somewhere, because this is what happened to me and my wife, personally.


    But, if you want to bank on the scientific knowledge available on the 4.6% of what is possibly observable, and diregard the fact that 95.4% is truly "unknown" in scientific terms, then, as you say, reassesment may be order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    So, with some hand waving, scientists say "let there be dark matter", and behold it was good, because it filled in the missing blanks on their calculations.....
    No. The certain presence of dark matter is also observable through gravitational lensing.

    YouTube - Hubblecast 05: Hubble finds ring of dark matter


    String theory is more the trick of mathematics that can't be shown, so there may or may not be multiple dimensions. Not the same thing as alternate universes which there also may or may not be. Dark energy is certainly out there. The rapidly increasing expansion of the universe is being caused by something, but currently scientists have no idea what that is.

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    Timely..... this here was on NPR's Morning Edition this very day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    No. The certain presence of dark matter is also observable through gravitational lensing.

    YouTube - Hubblecast 05: Hubble finds ring of dark matter


    String theory is more the trick of mathematics that can't be shown, so there may or may not be multiple dimensions. Not the same thing as alternate universes which there also may or may not be. Dark energy is certainly out there. The rapidly increasing expansion of the universe is being caused by something, but currently scientists have no idea what that is.
    Hold on there.

    So, gravitational lensing is occuring around a cluster of galaxies ( a likely source for mass from which to create gravitational lensing), pretty much symmetrical around said cluster of galaxies, and yet that is proof of dark matter?

    Weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    Timely..... this here was on NPR's Morning Edition this very day.
    Yes, I heard that thismorning while driving to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Yes, I heard that thismorning while driving to work.
    Probably led to this thread ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    Probably led to this thread ?
    I'd say there's only a 4.6% degree of certainty that it was what lead to this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    I'd say there's only a 4.6% degree of certainty that it was what lead to this thread!
    Even though it is invisible I can see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Weak.
    Uh, no. Matter and dark matter do tend to clump together, and by observing how the matter is actually responding to the presence of other matter via gravitational effects it can be determined that more matter is present than the matter which we can see, hence dark matter.

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