Thread: Dark Matter

Originally Posted by Seraphim

I believe Han Solo has the answer:

That still doesn't answer why you're so interested in showing that the idea of dark matter is wrong.

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

That still doesn't answer why you're so interested in showing that the idea of dark matter is wrong.

I'm not necessarily saying it's "wrong" I'm saying it is only circumstantially observable at best.

Originally Posted by Seraphim

I'm not necessarily saying it's "wrong" I'm saying it is only circumstantially observable at best.

Well that's in the definition of dark matter:

Dark matter is a theoretical form of matter that is undetectable by its emitted radiation, but whose presence can be inferred from gravitational effects on visible matter.

It may be dark, it may be light, but does it really matter? Is gravity of any real consequence to things other than, oh, apples? After all the universe is continuing to expand. Wouldn't one expect that after billions and billions of years of supposedly pulling things together that gravity actually would be starting to pull things together? Or is it like corporate executives, the cosmos just does things its way regardless of how us little folks think it ought to behave, lambda or no lambda?

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

Well that's in the definition of dark matter:

Dark matter is a theoretical form of matter that is undetectable by its emitted radiation, but whose presence can be inferred from gravitational effects on visible matter.

Which was also in my OP:

theoretical
undetectable
presence can be inferred

So, we're back to page #1!

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Which was also in my OP:

theoretical
undetectable
presence can be inferred

So, we're back to page #1!

It's still more observable then the presence of God.

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

It's still more observable then the presence of God.

That is quite debateable (see pages 1-15....).



EDIT: And for that matter have you, yourself tried looking for the presence of either one?

Originally Posted by Seraphim

That is quite debateable (see pages 1-15....).

Sure you can debate it but the conclusion is the same.

Originally Posted by Seraphim

EDIT: And for that matter have you, yourself tried looking for the presence of either one?

Either one? God and dark matter?

I don't have the equipment to view the effects of dark matter.

What am I supposed to be looking for when you say God? Everyone seems to have their own definition and "evidence" of God.

And which God should I be looking for?

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Which was also in my OP:

theoretical
undetectable
presence can be inferred

So, we're back to page #1!

Again?!?! It is very simple: you can detect the gravitational field, but not the electromagnetic.

Once you want to blur it to philosophy the way you are trying everything you know is theoretical, undetectable, and its presence can be inferred.

Toss a coin, what do you infer from the way it falls?

Originally Posted by gugi

Again?!?! It is very simple: you can detect gravitational field, but not the electromagnetic.

Once you want to blur it to philosophy the way you are trying everything you know is theoretical, undetectable, and its presence can be inferred.

Toss a coin, what do you infer from the way it falls?

Well, when I toss a coin, the fact that it falls downwards after reaching apogee, indicates the strong pull from the invisible, theoretical dark matter contained in the floor.

It's quite obvious

And don't try and besmirch my argument by saying it's purely philosophical, as on the other side (of the coin) the arguments for dark matter are purely theoretical.


So there.