Thread: President Obama Q&A at the GOP House Issues Conference

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

I already gave a reason. It benefits society. Or do you think it's a good thing to have no way out for drug addicts?



Wow....good thing Jesus didn't have the same attitude...right?

it would have been a benefit to society if they had not became addicts
and got a job. they made the choice, not i. we as taxpayers should not have to pay for their rehab time and time again.

why would you bring JESUS into this? we are the taxpayer not he.
JESUS said "he helps those who help themselves" so they can quit the drugs and get a job and quit being a burden on the rest of us!!!

Originally Posted by riooso

I though it was interesting when someone asked how Obama could rail against Bush for overspending $150 Billion his last year in office when Obama's government is overspending that much each month?


Later,
Richard

Actually the 2008 budget deficit would be about $455 Billion, not $150 Billion. But that only tells a part of the story as the debt jumped up by $1 Trillion that year. Someone also conveniently glosses over the deficit on a sizable portion of FY2009. That budget was signed by the President in October 2008 and was already deficit spending while funding only the first 6 months of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by MichaelP

Actually the 2008 budget deficit would be about $455 Billion, not $150 Billion. But that only tells a part of the story as the debt jumped up by $1 Trillion that year. Someone also conveniently glosses over the deficit on a sizable portion of FY2009. That budget was signed by the President in October 2008 and was already deficit spending while funding only the first 6 months of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Thanks for the clarification. So Obama and the houses are spending the same amount?


Later,
Richard

Originally Posted by 59caddy

it would have been a benefit to society if they had not became addicts
and got a job. they made the choice, not i. we as taxpayers should not have to pay for their rehab time and time again.

Right so you can't refute what I said. It's a benefit to society to help drug addicts. I don't know why you wouldn't want your tax money to go to the benefit of society.

So you think all addicts don't work?

Originally Posted by 59caddy

why would you bring JESUS into this? we are the taxpayer not he.
JESUS said "he helps those who help themselves" so they can quit the drugs and get a job and quit being a burden on the rest of us!!!

I guess you forget the claim of why Jesus came to earth. Didn't he come to absolve you of your sins? If he had the attitude you display here you wouldn't have the belief that you'd be saved.

You said this:

Originally Posted by 59caddy

i could care less about that crowd. let them find the way out, just like they found the way in..

You found your way in to sin so jesus should have just let you find your own way out. Right?

Until the 2009 and 2010 numbers get checked and confirmed, it is hard to say exactly how wide the total deficit spending is or will be. Right now, we can just see the planned budget deficit... there's still the out of budget spending.

I'm not saying the current administration is spending less than the previous administration by any means... just that the picture of the previous administration that is painted by the Republican party isn't exactly realistic. Budget deficit spending between 2003 and 2009 has been $500 Billion a year on average, for a total (budget + out of budget) deficit of about $6 Trillion between 2001 and 2009. For reference, FY2001 deficit was less than $40 Billion by the end of the exercise but was actually balanced when signed. FY2002 deficit was about $150 Billion.

Originally Posted by 59caddy

it would have been a benefit to society if they had not became addicts
and got a job. they made the choice, not i. we as taxpayers should not have to pay for their rehab time and time again.

why would you bring JESUS into this? we are the taxpayer not he.
JESUS said "he helps those who help themselves" so they can quit the drugs and get a job and quit being a burden on the rest of us!!!

Being addicted to a substance and having a job aren't mutually exclusive. I understand that there are drug addicts who are felonious meth heads, but there are also people addicted to painkillers (Rush Limbaugh?) and alcohol. Your avatar is quite fitting for this discussion.

Going to rehab is helping yourself. Boy wouldn't government be awesome if we could pick and choose where our tax dollars went? It's their choice, not mine! If everyone lead the same great life I did, we wouldn't have any problems!

Originally Posted by commiecat

Your avatar is quite fitting for this discussion.

Going to rehab is helping yourself. Boy wouldn't government be awesome if we could pick and choose where our tax dollars went? It's their choice, not mine! If everyone lead the same great life I did, we wouldn't have any problems!

what does my avatar have to do with the topic? just another useless personal attack when you have nothing to add to the debate.
can you stick to the debate without trying to attack someone personally or is that too much for you to comprehend?

going to rehab and paying for it oneself is helpful. asking others to pay for your choice to be a drug addict is not helpful.

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

Right so you can't refute what I said. It's a benefit to society to help drug addicts. I don't know why you wouldn't want your tax money to go to the benefit of society.

So you think all addicts don't work?



I guess you forget the claim of why Jesus came to earth. Didn't he come to absolve you of your sins? If he had the attitude you display here you wouldn't have the belief that you'd be saved.

You said this:



You found your way in to sin so jesus should have just let you find your own way out. Right?

again i ask why your are bringing religion to this debate? we are talking about overspending money that is not there.

going to rehab is a good thing, just do not ask me to help pay for it.
i have no time to waste on paying for a choice that was made by addict in the first place.

Originally Posted by 59caddy

what does my avatar have to do with the topic? just another useless personal attack when you have nothing to add to the debate.
can you stick to the debate without trying to attack someone personally or is that too much for you to comprehend?

Your avatar is Dean Martin SMOKING A CIGARETTE and I mentioned it while discussing drug addiction. Nicotine is one of the hardest addictions to break. Dean Martin died of lung cancer. That is the relevance.

This isn't personal -- if I ever met you I'd happily offer to buy you a drink over a discussion about anything but politics.

Originally Posted by 59caddy

again i ask why your are bringing religion to this debate? we are talking about overspending money that is not there.

It's relevant to the discussion. You asked why we should fund rehab.

Don't you claim to be Christian? Don't you think the way Jesus would act is relevant to you?

Originally Posted by 59caddy

going to rehab is a good thing, just do not ask me to help pay for it.
i have no time to waste on paying for a choice that was made by addict in the first place.

Right just like Jesus shouldn't have wasted his time sacrificing himself to save you since it was your choice to sin.