Thread: HEEEEE'S BAAAAACK...

Originally Posted by gregs656

I hope you are never in a situation where you need help and every one around you is so superior they feel it's wrong to offer it. It is sad that people freeload, but it happens, ultimately how ever, you have to take the rough with the smooth in all things in life.

A much more positive attitude would be to start working on the social side of the problem, rather than just thinking of your self. I wonder how far through education you, or your kids, would have got if you had to pay for full time private tuition? Or how useful your car would be if you had to pay for all the roads around you?

I wonder indeed, who will offer their hand to you in your hour of need, and will you consider them a sinner or a saint?

1. you too have missed my point as stated earlier. there is help for those that ask. those programs are paid for by my and others tax money. all you have to do is "ASK". i am not being superior, just saying that the programs already exist and why do we need another government run mess on our hands with cost overruns and waste.
2. all 3 of my daughters and step-daughters paid their own FULL tuition for college. i paid for both of my degrees FULL tuition. we did not ask for or want any help from anyone or any organization.
3. i pay taxes for road use and repair. in fact with the job i have i pay over $12,000 per year in road use tax.
4. what does religion have to do with it? the good Lord helps those who help themselves.
5. i consider my opinions as "personal responsibility" by not relying on others for my needs and wants

Originally Posted by 59caddy

2. all 3 of my daughters and step-daughters paid their own FULL tuition for college. i paid for both of my degrees FULL tuition. we did not ask for or want any help from anyone or any organization

So you all went to private institutions for the entirety of your education, starting at kindergarten, and didn't receive any financial aid or student loans for college? Sorry man, but I'm calling complete BS on that.

More importantly, though; did college make them more liberal?

Originally Posted by commiecat

So you all went to private institutions for the entirety of your education, starting at kindergarten, and didn't receive any financial aid or student loans for college? Sorry man, but I'm calling complete BS on that.

More importantly, though; did college make them more liberal?

can you please read my posts completely??? i said COLLEGE, not since kindergarten. quit trying to obfuscate everything. i could care less what you call BS. we took no aid at all, and all was paid without loans. we had the means to pay for it and worked our way through if more funds were needed. we are not beholding to anyone or anything.
my daughters are more conservative than i on most topics. one has over 6 years in the military as of today and is probably going to get out because of the "commander in social engineering"

Originally Posted by 59caddy

can you please read my posts completely??? i said COLLEGE"

I didn't though, I was talking about education in its entirety. Or are social education programs ok?

For use and repair, but you certainly did not pay for all of it, every one in your area chips in. Is that ok as well? I imagine there are loads of freeloaders who use those roads.

Religion has nothing to do with it, they just seemed like appropriate phrases. What I meant was, if you're ever in the gutter, or some life threatening situation, and some fella offers you a hand, are you going to consider him a fool for not just thinking of him self, or be forever in his debt for pulling you out.

It's interesting you seem proud of the military, after all, you pay for them and men and women die in your country to protect all those freeloaders. Why don't they concentrate on them selves as well? I know you're all going to stab me in my sleep for that, but please remember that I am talking in principle, and I believe the complete opposite. I do not want to see replies specifically relating to this paragraphs. Talk about the principle, not the analogy.

I dunno, I think your opinion on social programs is confused as any one who lives in a country where they are provided and more than acceptable for certain things, but some people see the sky falling down around them when it's suggested for healthcare.

Originally Posted by 59caddy

can you please read my posts completely??? i said COLLEGE, not since kindergarten. quit trying to obfuscate everything. i could care less what you call BS. we took no aid at all, and all was paid without loans. we had the means to pay for it and worked our way through if more funds were needed. we are not beholding to anyone or anything.
my daughters are more conservative than i on most topics. one has over 6 years in the military as of today and is probably going to get out because of the "commander in social engineering"

You said college, but it was in response to someone asking about education. Public schools are free for all citizens for a good reason. Even if you ignore it then I'd suggest that the reason most people even get into college is because of a good public education.

Originally Posted by gregs656

I wonder how far through education you, or your kids, would have got if you had to pay for full time private tuition?

Originally Posted by 59caddy

all 3 of my daughters and step-daughters paid their own FULL tuition for college. i paid for both of my degrees FULL tuition. we did not ask for or want any help from anyone or any organization

Were these private or public colleges? If private, then not a one person you speak of received scholarships, grants or financial aid for either tuition or books?

A public option is like our public school system; a very inexpensive and viable option for something that all citizens deserve. If you want to pay for private parochial or a Montessori school (private insurance) then you have every right to do so. College would be like elective surgeries or visiting a specialist.

Originally Posted by commiecat

Were these private or public colleges? If private, then not a one person you speak of received scholarships, grants or financial aid for either tuition or books?

100 percent paid for by all 4 of us including books, tuition, room and board.
working jobs to pay for it all.

Originally Posted by 59caddy

100 percent paid for by all 4 of us including books, tuition, room and board.
working jobs to pay for it all.

That's not exactly what I asked. Were these all private or public institutions from grade school through college?

Originally Posted by commiecat

That's not exactly what I asked. Were these all private or public institutions from grade school through college?

FOR THE LAST TIME...COLLEGE...COLLEGE