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    I still haven't read the whole SRP Wiki ....
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    I think its mainly insurance regulation than it is "health care" anything but, no, I haven't read it. The people that voted for it haven't read it either though. These types of actions are piece milled together. All of the legislation isn't about health care/insurance regulation I am sure. I know that CNN was saying something about student loan legislation being in it as well... and something about increasing the Pell grant from $5500 a year to $5900 a year by 2017.

    lol government people kill me... seriously.

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    Contact SRP member Denmason, hes got 1800 pages into it so far! I wonder if my rep has even read the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnarchoPhil View Post
    I know that CNN was saying something about student loan legislation being in it as well... and something about increasing the Pell grant from $5500 a year to $5900 a year by 2017.
    Yep. The education portion of the health care bill starts at page 2,099 and goes on for 211 pages (to the end of the bill) in the following sections:

    Title I: Investing in Students and Families
    Title II: Student Loan Reform
    Title III: Modernization, Renovation, and Repair
    Title IV: Early Learning Challenge Fund
    Title V: American Graduation Initiative
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    I still haven't read the whole SRP Wiki ....
    Oh my...

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    Desregarding the website it's located on, this is the best non-slanted summation I've read to date:

    Health care reform bill 101: What does it mean for kids and families? / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6Myles View Post
    Desregarding the website it's located on, this is the best non-slanted summation I've read to date:

    Health care reform bill 101: What does it mean for kids and families? / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

    Hey thanks for the link. For many who may be unsure of the what the the law entails this is a great read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6Myles View Post
    Desregarding the website it's located on, this is the best non-slanted summation I've read to date:

    Health care reform bill 101: What does it mean for kids and families? / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
    Article is a good read, seen it yesterday. Most people have no idea what this bill is really about. One of the unconstitutional provisions of this proposed legislative abortion called health care reform is the mandate that all Americans must buy health insurance. If someone doesn’t buy health insurance they WILL be subject to fines and/or penalties. The way the government is going to collect these fines/penalties is by use of IRS enforcement – not exactly what the mission of this powerful Federal agency is. The only way the IRS can establish whether or not you have the “big brother” mandated health insurance is to check your medical records!
    Even with electronic medical records as the “source documents” for establishing non-compliance, the job of discovering these “violations” will be impossible unless our doctors, clinics and hospitals become “mandated reporters” – seek treatment, have no insurance and the health care provider will send an “electronic signal” to the IRS and in addition to your medical problems, you are going to suffer real pain!
    The cost of this proposed “police state” enforcement is estimated by the CBO at $11 billion over the next ten years and will require at least 17,000 new IRS employees. That must be the Obama administration’s idea of “job creation”.
    The problem is not with the records, it’s with the communist, fascist, socialist, anti-American, unconstitutional, government we’re headed for. Maybe it is time to throw more than just tea into Boston Harbor; it’s time to throw out not only all these elected scumbags, but both parties as well!

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    Along with the addition of around 16,000 new IRS agents is the addition of brand new Remington 870 12 Gauge shotguns for the agents.

    In this blog he states that the bill counts on billions of dollars in fines to help pay for the program.

    http://www.johndennis2010.com/blog/2...new-irs-agents
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    I still haven't read the whole SRP Wiki ....

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