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    As Abe Lincoln said, "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." I think he would have approved of the results of our last election.
    Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    As Abe Lincoln said, "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." I think he would have approved of the results of our last election.
    I thought Bob Marley said that!!!!

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    I am not an expert on polls, so if the Harris poll is flawed--let those who can demonstrate that to be the case do so. Otherwise, this is not the first time polling has yielded some pretty unsettling results about what some folks choose to believe about our president, whether it's that he's a closet Muslim (not that there's anything wrong with that) or a Manchurian candidate (something very wrong with that) or that he's not a US citizen, etc. I think because there are a number of "notable" voices that have raised questions in this regard (Limbaugh, Coulter, etc) there has been more of a tendency to see poll numbers that reflect what some of us see as an alarming willingness to entertain absurd beliefs.
    Although I reside in the "liberal" Northeast, I am personally acquainted with a number of folks who truly question whether Obama is a US citizen or a Muslim. So I don't find it too surprising (although depressing) that a not insubstantial percentage of those on the Right might hold the type of beliefs referenced in the Harris poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyjeff2 View Post
    I am not an expert on polls, so if the Harris poll is flawed--let those who can demonstrate that to be the case do so.
    It's impossible to say when the methods for the poll and it's results are not disclosed.

    Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.

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    Anyone using the term "Anti-Christ" in a serious manner, literally interpreting the Bible and applying it to our modern day political climate is a complete moron, in my opinion.

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    Just a reminder from your friendly local moderators that we encourage you to remain civil and discuss the topic at hand, rather than make inflammatory remarks about other's beliefs.

    Thank you all for your continued efforts as gentlemen.

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    Right, well, I wasn't directing my comment at any person in particular, so I'm not being uncivil here. I'm only saying that to take the Bible literally is problematic to begin with; but to apply some the most fantastical things within its pages to real world politics is totally absurd. I could point to a host of American founding fathers and political theorists who were far more blunt about just this issue than I was in my post. You know...seperation of church and state?

    Then there's that little thing we were all taught in school: "Don't believe everything you read."

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    If you listen to Obama's Inaugral address backwards, it will confirm 73% of all the assertions within this thread
    Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.

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