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hardblues Are We Incrementally Losing... 03-25-2010, 04:57 PM
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thebigspendur Funny, when Bush passed... 03-25-2010, 05:45 PM
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    Good points, in reference to the Bush era laws that in part, could be viewed as infringing on individual rights...it is an example of how something that is presumably good, or created for a stated good can be adulterated/exploited by others for an entirely foreign cause/purpose. Much the same argument with H.C. a good cause/purpose, but, as written is there pre-conceived ill intent?

    On the other point, the only right you have are those given by the state...not correct according to the constitution which states all rights are God given...the state's (federal) only purpose is to not infringe, but, protect those rights. As written, individual and state's rights supercede federal, as without the individual/states, federal wouldn't exist.

    Thanks all...interesting and maybe with this type of discussion, we find we're not all that far apart
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