Thread: Hutaree?

Sounds a lot like the poor fellas in florida that were arrested as terrorists.

Just some poor patriots getting ready to fight the man.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

While they sound like crackpots, I think what doesn't pass the smell test is the fact that it doesn't appear they actually did anything but talk about doing things and run around on their private property shooting guns.

Only count two of the indictment is actually about any concrete action and it is so vague I couldn't be sure they were actually accusing them of accomplishing any crime or just planning one.

As far as count one if they charged conspiracy against everyone who has talked about whacking a cop the entire genre of Rap music would be behind bars and every male under thirty in the ghettos of this country would be awaiting trial.

Counts three and four are only crimes if count two is proven so....

This looks a little like a test case to see if the government can remove any group that might be willing to put up armed resistance to it before they actually reach the point of taking any action. I'll be listening to the evidence they present in this case with care see where it leads.

y'all ever hear of "intent laws"?

Federal authorities say the Hutaree started to conduct military-style training in Michigan’s Lenawee County in August 2008.
After debating different scenarios, the group decided upon killing a local law enforcement official and attacking the subsequent funeral procession, the indictment says. The indictment says the Hutaree planned to use “improvised explosive devices” and “explosively formed projectiles” that, authorities say, qualify as weapons of mass destruction.
The group accelerated training in February and March with plans to carry out the attack in April, the indictment states.

Conspiracy to commit murder is illegal, no?
Granted, it will have to be proven. But if there is true, they deserve to be in prison because conspiracy to commit murder (or terrorism) is illegal.

Come on: what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Where are the cries for gitmo, waterboarding and indefinite lockup without hearing? These guys are terrorists. Why are you suddenly asking for proof? That didn't seem to be a consideration before.

If they were muslims, I think there would not be a peep from most Americans. People have been sent to gitmo for less than this. Now that they are white Christians, do they get the sympathy vote? Suddenly the terrorism bs gets too close to home for comfort?

Originally Posted by Bruno

Conspiracy to commit murder is illegal, no?
Granted, it will have to be proven. But if there is true, they deserve to be in prison because conspiracy to commit murder (or terrorism) is illegal.

If they were muslims, I think there would not be a peep from most Americans. Now that they are white Christians, do they get the sympathy vote? Remember McVeigh was a white Christian as well.

Its not a question of white christian verses brown muslim Bruno. If they're guilty they're guilty. My problem. Being that I get a strong smell of low politics at play but because I already mistrust this administration it puts everything they do in a tainted light in my mind, so, I thought I would put the story out there and see what kind of replies I get

Originally Posted by AnarchoPhil

y'all ever hear of "intent laws"?

Is intent even proveable?

Originally Posted by JMS

Is intent even proveable?

It will be if they waterboard them long enough. Come on Mark. They're terrorists. They deserve it. No mercy. They are enemy combatants.

No true Christian would do what they are saying these people did. We have to remember that they are innocent until proven guilty.

What I see here, Mark, are yahoos who stopped talking big and started hiring people to build bombs.

Owning guns=ok. Running about the woods with your buddies pretending to be hot stuff=ok. Building bombs to kill police= NOT OK. Once you start making bombs to kill people, you become a criminal...it's a pretty simple equation.

Let's waterboard some answers out of them!

Originally Posted by Miner123

No true Christian would do what they are saying these people did. .

Have to agree with Miner123 on this. and where does the idea they are Christian come from ? I missed that part.