Thread: CNN & MSNBC are a joke

Originally Posted by mhailey

I'm saying that Fox News is the Filet Mignon of cable news networks, while CNN, MSNBC and Headline News are the $1 menu double cheeseburgers.

National Propaganda Radio is the WIC/food stamps of News. Only listen to what the government wants you to hear. (what a great watch dog of government NPR is. Like they are really going to report on the corruption in the very entity that gives them their money.) How did they cover ACORN? Oh yeah, they wondered why conservatives were attacking this great organization. How did they cover Van Jones? go to NPR web site and look. according to NPR he's a great guy. (their latest one is "The Rightful Return of Van Jones") ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

Actually, according to your first post I'd say that Fox News is the $1 burger and NPR is the filet mignon. Look at how many people eat $1 burgers!

And what about ACORN? Are you talking about that silly video scandal in which the DA concluded:

On September 15, 2009, my office began an investigation into possible criminality on the part of three ACORN employees. The three had been secretly videotaped by two people posing as a pimp and prostitute, who came to ACORN’S Brooklyn office, seeking advice about how to purchase a house with money generated by their ‘business.’ The ‘couple’ later made the recording public. That investigation is now concluded and no criminality has been found.

Or are you talking about the voter fraud in '08 which was covered well by NPR?

I'm sorry but Fox will lose any battle in which we tally; errors, gaffes, lack of coverage, or agenda pushing.

Here is an interesting take on the topic of Fox news taken from Wiki that looks at if from another angle, essentially, that in part... the comparative differences between Fox's guest line-ups and it's competitors is due to the fact that the other outlets more often ignore the the conservative guests as follows:

Ex-Fox-News personality Eric Burns has suggested in an interview that Fox "probably gives voice to more conservatives than the other networks. But not at the expense of liberals." Burns justifies a higher exposure of conservatives by saying that other media often ignore conservatives.

Simply, another way of looking at it, or, something to take into consideration anyway...Perhaps their marking idea is in recognition that the many other networks and news sources leave a rather large void in the conservative market and they are capturing that market...as a center-right country that would seem intelligent business....I don't imagine Famous Dave's will be starting any outlets in Israel or Victoria's Secret is buying property in Saudi Arabia due to similar market studies...Know what I mean

Originally Posted by Wildtim

One thing that hasn't been debate yet is why FOX News was created. It is the Newest of the cable news networks and was created by a company that has had a knack for seeing the gaps it could fill in the marketplace and jumping into them with great results for its bottom line.

I would agree with that...as it seems that virtually all network non-Fox cable news sources are left-leaning, it would make sense that Fox, may simply be filling the void of a center-right country...as stated below earlier in this thread...

Originally Posted by hardblues

Ex-Fox-News personality Eric Burns has suggested in an interview that Fox "probably gives voice to more conservatives than the other networks. But not at the expense of liberals." Burns justifies a higher exposure of conservatives by saying that other media often ignore conservatives.

Simply, another way of looking at it, or, something to take into consideration anyway...Perhaps their marking idea is in recognition that the many other networks and news sources leave a rather large void in the conservative market and they are capturing that market...as a center-right country that would seem intelligent business....

Originally Posted by commiecat

Actually, according to your first post I'd say that Fox News is the $1 burger and NPR is the filet mignon. Look at how many people eat $1 burgers!

He already answered that about 8 posts ago. For a refresher:

comparing these to the news is apples and oranges. in both of these scenarios, there is more than just desire to consume written into the equation of consumption. Price is a key determining factor (especially in this economy). However, when it comes to news, you can just as easily decide to watch CNN, MSNBC, Headline News, or Fox, without any price issues. If you have cable tv, you have these channels, and can freely make a choice on what to watch.

If a fillet mignon was the same price as a double cheese burger from McD's, then I am sure that the double cheese burger will cease to exist, unless changes are made to the double cheese burger. CNN, MSNBC, and headline news are not learning this lesson, and are simply trying to throw mud at Fox, calling Fox biased, while ignoring their own utterly liberally slanted reporting of the news.

Originally Posted by commiecat

Actually, according to your first post I'd say that Fox News is the $1 burger and NPR is the filet mignon. Look at how many people eat $1 burgers!

And what about ACORN? Are you talking about that silly video scandal in which the DA concluded:

Or are you talking about the voter fraud in '08 which was covered well by NPR?

I'm sorry but Fox will lose any battle in which we tally; errors, gaffes, lack of coverage, or agenda pushing.

silly scandal that brought down the entire organization? yes. Silly scandal in which ACORN was complicit in using 15 year old girls in the sex trade? Yes. Voter fraud that ended up with criminal convictions? yes.

Your DA quote was from one of the tapes. I am still waiting for all of the DA's to make their determination.

I'm sorry, but Fox is the best. The rest are crap, unless you consider ignoring stories as great reporting.

Originally Posted by mhailey

I'm sorry, but Fox is the best.

Best means #1, and I know you're a lawyer, so from now on all my TV watching will most certainly be Fox until they move down the ratings, if they ever do!

Originally Posted by mhailey

I'm sorry, but Fox is the best. The rest are crap, unless you consider ignoring stories as great reporting.

Scooter Libby found not guilty (he was guilty):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/159/4...71e21a2c0e.jpg

Sheldon Whitehouse is a winning republican (he's democrat):
http://www3.allaroundphilly.com/blog...%20a%20Rep.jpg

John McCain is a democrat (he's not):
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/bord0080/uni.../mccaind-j.jpg

Mark Foley is a democrat (he's not):
http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/foley.jpg

Mark Sanford is a democrat (he's not):
http://hotfile.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/sanford.jpg

Lamar Alexander is a democrat (he's not):
http://www3.allaroundphilly.com/blog...ar%20-%20D.jpg

Pat Toomey is a democrat (he's not)
http://intershame.com/on/Fox_News/im...6475456877.jpg

Shall I continue?

I think commiecat's post is a good start.

Originally Posted by commiecat

Scooter Libby found not guilty (he was guilty):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/159/4...71e21a2c0e.jpg

Sheldon Whitehouse is a winning republican (he's democrat):
http://www3.allaroundphilly.com/blog...%20a%20Rep.jpg

John McCain is a democrat (he's not):
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/bord0080/uni.../mccaind-j.jpg

Mark Foley is a democrat (he's not):
http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/foley.jpg

Mark Sanford is a democrat (he's not):
http://hotfile.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/sanford.jpg

Lamar Alexander is a democrat (he's not):
http://www3.allaroundphilly.com/blog...ar%20-%20D.jpg

Pat Toomey is a democrat (he's not)
http://intershame.com/on/Fox_News/im...6475456877.jpg

Shall I continue?

In recent memory there was the whole "death panel" smear, basically equating end of life choice to genocide. Anything to try and bury Obama, really.

I have heard plenty of brutally worded criticism on any news channel, but never leaning so heavily on half-truths or all-out lies.

There's something from a couple years ago about McCain Fox got in big trouble for, which my poor memory is struggling to recall and I'm in a rush, but I will have a think and have a look and see if I can find it. It was epic. I remember that much.

Originally Posted by mhailey

I'm sorry, but Fox is the best. The rest are crap, unless you consider ignoring stories as great reporting.

Best at what? Being fair and balanced? I don't think so.

I don't care one way or the other about "fair and balanced" I watch Fox because they are always Right!