Thread: My head hurts.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

I caught that part, after hearing him I just don't believe it. He sure didn't sound like a guy using a metaphor to make a point.

Of course not. He's a democrat.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

What does his herpes have to do with anything?

First, not herpes. Second, I think it better explains his demeanor than saying "By the way he grew up in Washington DC."

Originally Posted by Wildtim

I caught that part, after hearing him I just don't believe it. He sure didn't sound like a guy using a metaphor to make a point.

What does his herpes have to do with anything?

Originally Posted by Wildtim

How does that refute anything I said. It was the primary, where he will now be the incumbent. Judging by the response of our fairly educated liberal members here at SRP who are more than willing to believe he was making some sort of joke I bet the largely uneducated people of his district will just keep pulling the level for the guy they know for a long long time no matter the damage he does to the country or the future of civil rights.

So... you're excuse for omitting information which changes the context and standing of your entire argument is that, respectively, you don't believe him, and you are (your words) "betting" on what the people of his district will do? I think the point gugi's quote was making was that with a 5% change, and a decent independent candidate, the next election could easily go the other way. It's not that out-there.

So what you've just said is that you knew the full facts, and then decided to disregard them because you didn't believe them, as oppose to providing them and letting US decide for ourselves.

You tried to censor reality to fit your idea of how things are.

And you know, it's not necessarily that you're assessment is wrong.

But you look a hell of a lot less credible in your assessment if that's what you're willing to do to force people into believing it. If YOU believe in your assessment, why do you have to skew the facts to convince other people? If you truly believe your opinion can stand on its own 2 feet, why do you need to give it a crutch?

It is much harder to take your opinion seriously when try to alter reality to suit it. If you're going to do that, it's much wiser to simply say you didn't see it, but rather, you admittedly to willfully deciding to leave it out.

It's also rather telling that you missed that it is HEPATITIS, not HERPES. You obviously aren't reading what people have to say very closely.

Originally Posted by commiecat

Of course not. He's a democrat.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?


see metaphor and we all get that.

His statement just didn't sound like someone saying something offbeat for effect and when the general seemed to take him seriously (generals not being known for their subtle sense of humor) he didn't correct him.

Originally Posted by commiecat

First, not herpes. Second, I think it better explains his demeanor than saying "By the way he grew up in Washington DC."

hepatitis C doesn't effect the brain, growing up in the DC school system certainly does, so I felt it was more relevant. It might even be an excuse for the level of knowledge he revels with his statements.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

How does that refute anything I said. It was the primary, where he will now be the incumbent.

Seriously, you need help with this?

Originally Posted by Wildtim

Judging by the response of our fairly educated liberal members here at SRP who are more than willing to believe he was making some sort of joke I bet the largely uneducated people of his district will just keep pulling the level for the guy they know for a long long time no matter the damage he does to the country or the future of civil rights.

Wow, you may want to reread and rethink what you just posted.

Ok, here's again the part that you don't find any significance in. He won in the democratic primary against a congresswoman who has been in office for 12 years. So the voters in that district, educated or not, actually were fully capable of picking "somebody they don't know for a long time" when they elected him.
This is the exact the opposite of your clam, and it is a historical fact. In the school system I went to those used to trump any made up speculations, no matter the brain contrortions you use to make the later believable.

If the point of this post is that the congressman has a lumbering way of speaking-ok. But as I understand it, this video has been widely posted along with the tag line that he either thought Guam was a boat, or that the addition of a large number of US soldiers might cause the island to tip over. As to the latter-the man is clearly speaking metaphorically, and mentions the term "island" a number of times. I guess if you don't get what a metaphor is, or how sometimes people speak metaphorically, you'd think this guy was a real dummy. But that would make you the...oh, never mind.

The 4th district, of georgia, has not elected any congresspersons, from any other party than democrat since re-aligning district lines in 93. If we look at that districts record, they have elected cynthia mckinney(the one who said she was stopped by congressional security because she was black, only to find out it was because she refused to show her id card) twice in that time, one other woman(sorry I forget her name), and our buddy now in discussion, to me it seems like those voters like a voice of reparation, and will vote in whoever shares that view. Since that flies in the face of either libertarian or republican principals, it might be possible that one of those parties can get someone elected, its just very, very unlikely, imo. There is only one district in the state that is more likely to vote democratic.

Although I thought what he said was ridiculous, the fact that it took him two and a half minutes to come up with said comment, is more telling than what he said, imo. As was his choice of "over" instead of "point" in the final version of the facetious metaphor he decided on. Oh how different reaching an ecological tipping point and the island tipping over are, and how easily the statement could have been corrected on the spot, however he didnt seem to see any thing wrong with what he said, since he repeated it when asked by the person being questioned, until it was pointed out to him in a later interview. The other scary part is that no one else at the hearing tried to get him to clarify his remarks and just went along with it, heck I didnt even hear a snicker, which was why I was soo sure it was a doctored video, unfotunately it was a real comment of one of the fine people chosen to govern us, even though they cant even govern their own thoughts, nor at the very least organize said thoughts before airing them.

Why is it everytime a democrat says something stupid, it is just wrote off as a joke gone bad, or a metaphor we missed by a single person. If a republican says something stupid it proves how big of a bunch of uneducated racist hicks the whole repub party is? If we allow one group to misspeak, "accidently", shouldnt the same be allowed for all others?

Originally Posted by Jasongreat

Why is it everytime a democrat says something stupid, it is just wrote off as a joke gone bad, or a metaphor we missed by a single person. If a republican says something stupid it proves how big of a bunch of uneducated racist hicks the whole repub party is? If we allow one group to misspeak, "accidently", shouldnt the same be allowed for all others?

It doesn't happen like that everytime.

Originally Posted by billyjeff2

If the point of this post is that the congressman has a lumbering way of speaking-ok. But as I understand it, this video has been widely posted along with the tag line that he either thought Guam was a boat, or that the addition of a large number of US soldiers might cause the island to tip over. As to the latter-the man is clearly speaking metaphorically, and mentions the term "island" a number of times. I guess if you don't get what a metaphor is, or how sometimes people speak metaphorically, you'd think this guy was a real dummy. But that would make you the...oh, never mind.

You have to be kidding. The video does not show a person speaking metaphorically, it shows a person that is incompetent to hold office. If you want to buy into the spin of the liberal left that his statements were a metaphor, then I have bridge in Brooklyn that I'll sell you, cheep. Any competent person, when making a statement such as this, as a metaphor, would have qualified the statement with "metaphorically speaking, I'm concerned that ..."

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

It doesn't happen like that everytime.

Not everytime. Just when it is in the best interest of the democrat party. Hell, they'll eat their own young if they thought it would advance the democrat party and its agenda...metaphorically speaking that is.

Originally Posted by mhailey

You have to be kidding. The video does not show a person speaking metaphorically, it shows a person that is incompetent to hold office. If you want to buy into the spin of the liberal left that his statements were a metaphor, then I have bridge in Brooklyn that I'll sell you, cheep. Any competent person, when making a statement such as this, as a metaphor, would have qualified the statement with "metaphorically speaking, I'm concerned that ..."

So you believe he was speaking literally, and truly believed that deploying a significant number of troops to the island of Guam would cause the island to tip over? Wow. Must be interesting to live in your world. Metaphorically, speaking, that is...