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    There is a real problem with the word "Atheism". Dictionaries give two definitions which are very different.

    1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
    2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

    In my view, these two definitions make the word "atheist" useless; to answer a simple question like "Are you an atheist?", requires a counter question: "What do you mean by atheist?".

    Most people who call themselves atheist (including famous atheists like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens) actually fall under definition 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcd View Post
    1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
    2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
    Hmmmmm I am not seeing the difference in this two statements, unless you missed a Capital (G) on the word god, making it into the Judea-Christian "God" of Abraham....

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    An atheist believes that there is no god where as the agnostic wants to believe in god but hasn't seen any proof of existence. The difference is primarily in desire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red96ta View Post
    An atheist believes that there is no god where as the agnostic wants to believe in god but hasn't seen any proof of existence.
    Well, kinda.. This Agnostic doesn't _want_ to per se, but definitely keeps an open mind to whatever might materialize
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    I'm agnocchi - I have a fundamental disbelief in pasta being made out of potato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I'm agnocchi - I have a fundamental disbelief in pasta being made out of potato.

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    Hehe, Good one And I wholeheartedly agree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Hmmmmm I am not seeing the difference in this two statements, unless you missed a Capital (G) on the word god, making it into the Judea-Christian "God" of Abraham....
    The definitions refers to general gods, not God.

    There is a subtle difference between:

    1. Believing something doesn't exist (positive belief)
    2. Not believing something exists (negative belief)

    For example on the question of the Loch Ness Monster, I would say

    "I don't think the Loch Ness Monster exists."

    I wouldn't say

    "I think the Loch Ness Monster doesn't exist."

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