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    Quote Originally Posted by sinnfein View Post
    ahh you beat me to it

    now first of all if she was my kid, after something like that she wouldnt even have a computer till she moved out of the house. sure she is really just acting like some overpriveliged spoiled kid but i think every thing else was kind of excessive, who should have to be put into police protection for a kid saying some dumb stuff on the internet? oh no you made fun of me and called me bad names. just take the computer away, problem solved

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    Unfortunately, the parent have no idea what she is doing online, and still have refused to watch the videos she posted. Here is an interview her mom gave recently. Even after all this, she still hasn't watched the videos her daughter made.


    ml: When did you find out about the videos, and what was your reaction?

    DL: The officers had said there were videos, but Jess denied making them. Then my mother-in-law called and said there were videos. But I haven't watched them. I can't be in the room 24/7. We tried to talk to Jess last night, but she got very upset all over again. I am trying to get her back to normal. It's taken a very emotional toll on her. I don't know if she made these videos or not, but she says she didn't.
    ml: Why do you think this happened to your daughter and family?

    DL: Jessica helps a person write song lyrics. He's in a band, and people are jealous because she knows him and they became friends. She's been to one of his concerts and they've become friends. My daughter is a really friendly person and she chats online with people. She has also been bullied and picked on at school by a boy and two girls. The two girls got in trouble and they were suspended for three days after bullying her. Towards the end of the school year, Jess was suspended for 10 days after being accused of slapping a boy in the face and bruising him. She says she didn't do it and that the boy was sitting at a lunch table talking about how he got bruised after his brother hit him in the face with a softball. Every time something happens, there are no teachers or security guards at the school and Jessica gets in trouble.

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    Well, I've got a thirteen yr. old daughter that's gotten herself into a bit of trouble through facebook and msn.. nothing to that extent, hopefully we nipped it in the bud, but I think the big thing is that they don't understand the possible repercussions... It might seem like a small thing to vent a bit on-line... but things get around like they never did in my day...

    Needless to say, all social networking privileges for my little girl have been seriously curtailed... Hopefully she's learned her lesson.

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    From what I've read above, it seems like precious is a drama queen, and the parents refuse to talk about anything that might upset their sensitive innocent princess. If it hadn't happened online, it would have happened in real life because she is just that kind of girl. At least she still has all her teeth and no physical scars. Still, if the parents keep avoiding the truth, they'll just hurt their little miss precious in the long run.

    Regardless, after they complained to the police, someone really should have sat down with the parents and explained to them a couple of things. Because the dad has made himself immortally ridiculous as well.

    He notified the 'cyber police'... the 4channers must be trembling with fear.
    He 'backtraced it'... I doubt he even knows what he is saying, and he is only taunting the griefers because they know, like we don, that he is a total dolt.
    'The consequences will never be the same'... and a new meme is born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Because the dad has made himself immortally ridiculous as well.

    He notified the 'cyber police'... the 4channers must be trembling with fear.
    He 'backtraced it'... I doubt he even knows what he is saying, and he is only taunting the griefers because they know, like we don, that he is a total dolt.
    'The consequences will never be the same'... and a new meme is born.
    Oh, he doesn't even know.

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    Hilarious
    That was some creative editing. It shows that you can turn anything into a rap video
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    I have to admit, while I think she had it coming, I do feel sorry for the girl. This is what you get when have kids but don't raise them. Or rather, when you raise them with the assumption that they are perfect and can do no wrong.

    I found this interview with the mom where she says that she hasn't watched the videos but she doesn't believe her daughter would use the words 'pop a Glock and turn your brain to slush'.[/QUOTE]

    Right...

    According to the mother
    The officers had said there were videos, but Jess denied making them. Then my mother-in-law called and said there were videos. But I haven't watched them. I can't be in the room 24/7. We tried to talk to Jess last night, but she got very upset all over again. I am trying to get her back to normal. It's taken a very emotional toll on her. I don't know if she made these videos or not, but she says she didn't. Right now, I am trying to figure out what's real and what's not. This has been very difficult to deal with.
    And about the protective custody:
    These kids have to get up at 7:00 AM, have breakfast and do schoolwork. There is no TV for them, and nothing else to do
    The horror...

    she was our miracle child, because I had cervical cancer and was told I couldn't have children.
    Ah ok this is where their attitude is coming from. I know a couple who ran over their son with their car, and ever since they are spoiling him rotten.

    I can't be in the same room with her 24/7 and I am trying to explain to her what's going on. It's been very difficult because I don't understand what's going on -- I don't even know what these videos show and I don't want to view them.
    Mkaaaay....
    Yes, that is a real poser. She wants to learn what is happening, but she doesn't want to learn what is happening. I can see how this would be difficult.

    Communicate with your child, try and watch them and try and believe what your child is saying to you. Give your child the benefit of the doubt, because nobody else will. And talk to your child about cyberbullying and about how bad it's going to hurt another person. They don't know or understand the dwindling-down effect of what they've created.
    finally some decent advice, but I don't agree with 'believe what your children are saying'. Trust, but verify. My oldest daughter never lies and on the rare occasion she tries, she fails miserably. My youngest otoh... she's a darling, but if she wants she can be cute, laugh or cry convincingly at will, and lie with an honest face.

    I agree that you should back your kids and help them face whatever problems they encounter, but don't rule out the possibility that they are not telling you everything.
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    Wow.................I think we need to go back about 200 yrs. I remember thinkin I was all that at 13 but nothing like this ?But,I dunno...maybe I'm just getting old and can't remember as much. This is our future. So I'm wondering then. In 100yrs........what will 11 yr. olds be like or 5 yr. olds for that matter ? This is scary. Way scary !! And for that matter...what will parent be like ?? I long for a simpler time when people were a little more humble.......or maybe that's a dream too ??? Sad...........

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    I will have to show this thread to my wife.. and then she will understand why I have a strict filtering & logging policy on my home servers and why I have a keylogger on the computer my daughter uses currently.

    Luckily she is not interested in social networking currently, only plays games when online ( only about 2 hours a week ), and prefers spending most of her time outside.

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    I think the fact that this kid was still online and the comments made by the father are more than enough to prove parental incompetency.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troggie View Post
    I will have to show this thread to my wife.. and then she will understand why I have a strict filtering & logging policy on my home servers and why I have a keylogger on the computer my daughter uses currently.
    A colleague where I work has three daughters from 14 to 21, and he has also locked down the network at home. I'm not sure I'd go that far... it's such a difficult line to tread between exerting control and giving your children space to grow and to build trust with them. I don't think I'd log their keystrokes and then analyse them, in the same way I wouldn't sneak into their room and look through their stuff. But nor would I let them have unfettered and unsupervised access to the internet (our kids know to ask every time they want to boot up then PC -- and if they don't, it gets shut down immediately). But then, my colleague's daughters have turned out to be fine young women, so who's to say what is OTT?

    Our boy is 8 and for the first time last week we let him go to the local shops on his own. He took his weekly £2 pocket money with him to buy whatever he wanted and when he came back I saw what he bought and noted that his change didn't match the total he was supposed to have spent. I immediately got suspicious and quizzed him, expecting some lame story. He told me he had seen someone on the street collecting for charity and had given them 20p. I asked him what they said. He told me they said "Thank you, young man."

    I resolved to be more trusting in future. And was fit to burst with pride.

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