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    Quote Originally Posted by TopCat View Post
    But how does one "fact check" if a lobbying interest, in this case the Chamber of Commerce, is non-transparent, and keeps it's books closed? It's this lack of transparency from most PAC's (of both parties) that presents a great case for their elimination. It seems as though the framers ideal of a government created "of by and for the people" we have somehow allowed to be turned into "of by and for the PAC and corporate lobbyist". Enough is enough!
    Exactly ... so, to be credible, why didn't the White House raise the issue as it relates to ALL of these lobbying interests? One of their most voiciferouse opponents is the ONLY lobbying interest that they accuse without any evidence? If they would have raised the issue generically, (it would've been more credible, for instance, if they had suggested that ALL PACs be either eliminated or made transparent) but to accuse via speculation the US Chamber only I think reeks of the politics of which we are all SICK. Not saying that the other side doesn't use the same tactics, just pointing out that our White House time and again has attempted to quash any dissident voices with threats ... and that, I think is very far from the ideals of our framers.
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    "Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month and next year and to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen"

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