Thread: Qualifications for parents

Originally Posted by TSasser

Not in the way you want it to. Most do not take religion as serious as most would like

Huh? Most want to take religion serious but they don't?
Religion is pretty serious here in the USA.

Originally Posted by TSasser

and it is common knowledge that most religions are against gay and lesbian relationships, it has yet to mentally harm anyone that I have seen.

Are you serious? Parents have disowned their children when they find out they are gay. You don't think that would mentally harm someone?

Originally Posted by TSasser

Do you know anyone that is gay that is receiving psychological help because of a religious thing?

Ted Haggard

I think part of the question comes in at what are the implications of the decision.
If you're not considered "fit" to be a foster parent, then is it much of a stretch to say you're not "fit" to be a natural parent?

Why would a particular teaching be ok for natural children and not adopted or foster children?

This could be any number of "hot" topics.

As "logical extremes" what if

A) you were judged an un-fit parent because you own guns, and therefore "promote violence"

B) you were judged unfit because you woud encourage your child to practice abstinance rather than use contraception

etc.

Seems to me that we are presented with state sponsored discrimination based upon a religious belief. For those of you defending the discrimination against these foster parents, how would you react if the were discriminated against because they were black, because they were hispanic, because they were muslim, because they were buddhist?

Originally Posted by mhailey

Seems to me that we are presented with state sponsored discrimination based upon a religious belief.

I don't think religion had anything to do with why they were rejected. They were rejected for the belief. It wouldn't matter if it was based on religion or not. They'd still be rejected.

Should a belief such as that even need to be disclosed during the process for adopting foster children?
Is it acceptable for the state to ask what you believe about gay marriage in order to adopt children? If so, where is the line drawn as to what is or isn't acceptable to ask, and where is the line drawn as to what is or isn't a religious belief?
Would it be acceptable to ask a potential foster parent if they believe in sharia law?

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

I don't think religion had anything to do with why they were rejected. They were rejected for the belief. It wouldn't matter if it was based on religion or not. They'd still be rejected.

Everyone is entitled their opinion.

The whole issue is just a reflection of society as a whole. Just take a look around you at the state of things in this country. Morality is one signpost. it's all a complete downhill slide which has been going on for some time now.

As far as children and religion go it's basically a form of indoctrination. Without it kids wouldn't follow the religion especially the more limiting ones.

Water runs down hill. It takes energy to make it go up hill.

Originally Posted by mhailey

Seems to me that we are presented with state sponsored discrimination based upon a religious belief. For those of you defending the discrimination against these foster parents, how would you react if the were discriminated against because they were black, because they were hispanic, because they were muslim, because they were buddhist?

It's not that I think discrimination is ok, but having anti-gay people take care of a gay foster child is not in the best interest of the well being of the kid, right?

I mean, that would be like putting a black kid in the foster care of a family of aryan nation followers. With foster care (as with adoption), the most important consideration needs to be the wellbeing of the child. Everything else, including the motivations of the foster parents to-be is secondary to that imo.

By the same token, it is perfectly legal to be a neo nazi, but that doesn't mean that nea nazis would have to be permitted to be foster parents. they can mess up their own kids as much as they like but when kids are placed in their care by their current legal guardian (child services), the well being of the kids trumps the right of the parents to do whatever they please.

Originally Posted by NYCshaver

Huh? Most want to take religion serious but they don't?
Religion is pretty serious here in the USA.



Are you serious? Parents have disowned their children when they find out they are gay. You don't think that would mentally harm someone?



Ted Haggard

I live in the USA and I know what is serious and what is not. Please put an opinion about the OP instead of attacking.

Parents also disown their children for racial issues so that is not really a good point. It happens more for racial issues than sexual IMO.

Ted Haggard was a Heterosexual that paid someone to have sex with him and used Meth (a very addicting drug). The counseling was not because of his sexual orientation from what I have read. The only link for that was that he is gay and a minister.

NYCshaver, I do ask that if you have an opinion on this subject please post on your opinion and stop what is apearing as blatant attacks.

Thank you.