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    Science is built upon evidence.

    Religion is built on myth.

    The difference is so huge that I cannot imagine how one could possibly say both rely on faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markevens View Post
    Science is built upon evidence.

    Religion is built on myth.

    The difference is so huge that I cannot imagine how one could possibly say both rely on faith.
    Perhaps it's how you interpret the evidence. I think that there is a tremendous amount more evidence for an intelligent design to the universerse rather than complete random chance.

    For those of you that think evolution is indisputable you may want to join the flat earth society as that theory is still alive and well:

    The Flat Earth Society

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    Quote Originally Posted by volleykinginnc View Post
    For those of you that think evolution is indisputable you may want to join the flat earth society as that theory is still alive and well:

    The Flat Earth Society
    People once thought the earth was flat, then science proved otherwise.

    In your example, believing that the earth is flat is akin to believing in intelligent design. Not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volleykinginnc View Post
    Perhaps it's how you interpret the evidence. I think that there is a tremendous amount more evidence for an intelligent design to the universerse rather than complete random chance.

    For those of you that think evolution is indisputable you may want to join the flat earth society as that theory is still alive and well:

    The Flat Earth Society
    It isn't just random chance, its random chance + cause and effect over huge expanses of time. That is a big difference.
    Last edited by markevens; 01-04-2011 at 08:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volleykinginnc View Post
    Perhaps it's how you interpret the evidence. I think that there is a tremendous amount more evidence for an intelligent design to the universerse rather than complete random chance.
    Well what is some of this evidence for intelligent design?

    And that's how you believe evolution works? Just random chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCshaver View Post
    Well what is some of this evidence for intelligent design?

    And that's how you believe evolution works? Just random chance?
    Before we get in to the pros and cons of the theory read here that first tells you what it is and what it is not:
    Intelligent Design

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    Quote Originally Posted by markevens View Post
    Science is built upon evidence.

    Religion is built on myth.

    The difference is so huge that I cannot imagine how one could possibly say both rely on faith.
    Then maybe you should read my posts again? It is because in both science AND religion there's a trust on a higher authority/other authority.

    Scientists build on the theories put forward by previous scientists. They don't go out and first try to make sure that all those theories are correct. If they did that then nothing new would probably ever be discovered.

    Building on something that you didn'nt verify for yourself (trust in) is called faith.

    The problem is that so many people who call up the science VS religion debate (which is a stupid debate in itself the more I think about it) think that because faith is mentioned often in religion it's a religion exclusive concept. It's simply not.

    What about the parent that tells his child "I have faith in you" and as proof of that faith drives him/her to soccer practise?

    How about the teacher that claims to have faith in his pupil and as a result spends extra time with him making sure that the student passes an exam.

    Or the student that has faith in the teacher and as a result studies the material the teacher presented him with.

    All faith, all nothing to do with religion.

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    I won't say what side of the fence I'm on...

    Someone referred me to this url several years ago and it was so "entertaining", that I saved the url for later use: Why Won't God Heal Amputees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticky View Post
    I won't say what side of the fence I'm on...

    Someone referred me to this url several years ago and it was so "entertaining", that I saved the url for later use: Why Won't God Heal Amputees?
    That explains why there's so few normal, intelligent people in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navaja View Post
    That explains why there's so few normal, intelligent people in the world
    Why don't you point out what's wrong with the video instead of trying to insult?

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