Thread: Gallup Poll: 4 in 10 believe man created by God 10,000 years ago

Originally Posted by billyjeff2

Four in 10 Americans Believe in Strict Creationism

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle...

Shouldn't that be great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandson?

Of course, in reality, the best description is that you are distant cousins. Man did not descend from the ape, nor vice versa, but instead both descended from a common ancestor...

and his name may or may not have been Adam.

I believe that's the way the Catholic church puts it. Science is the examination of Gods Laws. We also believe in evolution. As far as when man was created? Only God knows that for sure.

Originally Posted by chay2K

The one thing that I've never been able to understand is if the laws of nature are dictated by God, and adaptation and evolution are the way that nature works, then why can't these processes be attributed to the hand of God. I'm not necessarily the religious type, but I believe in God, and don't understand why science can't help us better understand him-- the same way we use it to gain knowledge of other things.

Originally Posted by chay2K

The one thing that I've never been able to understand is if the laws of nature are dictated by God, and adaptation and evolution are the way that nature works, then why can't these processes be attributed to the hand of God. I'm not necessarily the religious type, but I believe in God, and don't understand why science can't help us better understand him-- the same way we use it to gain knowledge of other things.

You'd be surprised how many people actually believe this. I'm one of them I don't think God flouted natural laws in order to create things. What kind of God won't abide by his own laws?

Originally Posted by red96ta

Nothing wrong with the belief in a Supreme Being, they're living a life that they feel is fulfilling. Why not live and let live?

They can do what they want and I don't care.
However, these people are also influencing things like what is taught at schools. And in some schools (like in Texas ?) they are now teaching Creationism as 'science' alongside evolution. As a result, they are spreading their stupidity.

I'm totally with Bruno here.

I've always thought that religion is rather like having a gun. Its fine to have one and its fine to be proud of it, but dont wave it around in public and dont stick it in other peoples faces.

I have no problem with what people believe but once it starts adversely impacting me and mine, thats where I draw the line.

When someone believes in the higher spirit(s), whatever that might be, it is called a religion. I'm ok with that. Whatever they belief, there is no need to prove it is a scientific fact. If it makes them life better, then they should be happy and proud with it.

Now when this belief is taught as science, or imposed to those who believe in different religious beliefs, there is a risk that it might get, eh, badly wrong.
Science and religious beliefs cannot be compared. They both talk about whole different things.

Bible is a nice book, and lot of good moral there.
This 40% sadly shows that in front of a human stupidity and ignorance even higher spirits, whatever it is called, are helpless.

Since the bible is a book that comes from an oral tradition that was handed down over the centuries and in the earlier versions copied by hand, by scribes one page at a time, there are variables in what these surviving manuscripts tell us. The same can be said for the holy books of all other religions/belief systems.

These belief systems are, in many cases, using allegory to illustrate their point and weren't meant to be taken literally. We Homo sapiens, generation after generation, seem to think that we know what the truth really is on any side of any issue. The longer I live the more I am convinced that "we" don't know very much at all.

Big bang ? Global warming ? God ? All I know for sure is if any of these religious systems, be it Christianity, Buddhism, Islam or Hinduism are true, than they are either true or they are not. If one of them is true, it is true for everyone, or if not, it is not true for anyone.

I would hesitate to refer to someone who believes in God, whatever their belief system, as "stupid". They may very well be right and no one really will know until death reveals the truth one way or the other.

It would be interesting to see if the OP had some thoughts on wet shaving with straight razors once in awhile rather than thread after thread on "hot button" issues that seem to be calculated to generate controversy and divisiveness.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I would hesitate to refer to someone who believes in God, whatever their belief system, as "stupid". They may very well be right and no one really will know until death reveals the truth one way or the other.

This comment reminded me a Rowan Atkinson's bit entitled "Welcome to Hell."

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