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    I think that using "I feel" brings an emotional aspect into it rather than jst an intillectual aspect. I don't se a problem in using because after it since you are still using it to describe the intent be it emotional or intillectually based. And that's just how I feel...lol.

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    I don't think there is anything wrong with using 'i feel' and then 'because' to qualify it in principle.

    'I feel pain in my left arm because I fell on it'

    'I feel this is wrong because it goes against what I was taught to be correct'

    Our feelings, pleasure or pain or what ever, do not occur abstract of thought in any case, you cannot 'feel' anything with out thinking, and quite often when we are asked for an examination perhaps if 'this' hurts more than 'that' - you may well say 'yer I think so'.

    Difficult, they are closely linked and I don't necessarily think your examples are problematic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aeon View Post
    ...A paramedic trains so that they don't need to think about what they need to do to save a life, they just do it (and that plays into all parts of their job, from hearing a call on the radio to resolving the problem)...
    I understand the point you're making here, and there is some validity to it, but I want to point out that I was trained to think through situations and I train my students to do the same. We have to make rapid decisions, but it would be impossible to reliably make good decisions regarding life or death by only reacting to a situation on instinct.

    Quote Originally Posted by aeon View Post
    ...If someone is in a different mode than you are when you talk to them, they will react differently. They may over-think or under-think to varying degrees, and most of the time that will be undetectable. The message will remain the same between the two of you, but the method will change, based on where the two of you would sit on the spectrum. To me, that is a difference that is purely semantics because of human nature...
    You make a fair point here. In the situations where someone uses the phrase without giving it much thought I usually don't make a big deal out of it, but it does still get my attention. I realize that a lot of times people use language without thinking about it. What concerns me about this is that at some point people did have to think about it for it to be incorporated into common usage as such. In addition I still believe that even if there is little thought behind it, the language that we use does have an affect on how we perceive things. If you talk to someone that has experience with doing surveys they will tell you that using different words to ask the exact same question can lead to vastly different results. Even if the meaning is same, there are subtleties that create different perceptions.

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    ...Hopefully that wasn't too confusing or convoluted.
    Not at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by gregs656 View Post
    I don't think there is anything wrong with using 'i feel' and then 'because' to qualify it in principle.

    'I feel pain in my left arm because I fell on it'

    'I feel this is wrong because it goes against what I was taught to be correct'

    Our feelings, pleasure or pain or what ever, do not occur abstract of thought in any case, you cannot 'feel' anything with out thinking, and quite often when we are asked for an examination perhaps if 'this' hurts more than 'that' - you may well say 'yer I think so'.

    Difficult, they are closely linked and I don't necessarily think your examples are problematic.
    You make a good point. I was only thinking of it in the context that I used in the example. Certainly there are cases where "I feel" can be followed with "because".

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    I work in a female dominated workplace [a hospital] and if I remember right you do also. Not right or wrong, just different from my previous experience in male dominated factories and trades. I mention this because of your workplace example. "I feel " to me is a more feminine statement. My wife is a teacher and every once in a while when talking about how our day went I get a chuckle about how similar our workplaces function.

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    "I feel" and "I think" mean exactly the same thing when used here. I feel that is, perhaps, the nitpickingest objection to language and grammar usage I've ever heard. Far more bothersome to me is the misuse of "there" for "their" (and vice versa), alot for a lot, to for too (vice versa again). The other annoyance is totally incoherent sentences and phrases. However, I know exactly what is meant in each misuse, so I never (NEVER) call anyone out on it.

    Folks, this is a SHAVING forum, not a grammar/spelling board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captp View Post
    Folks, this is a SHAVING forum, not a grammar/spelling board.
    More specifically this is the 'Off topic' section of a shaving forum...

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    I think, factually speaking, this thread is part of the forum referred to as,


    "The Conversation
    A forum where Gentlemen of all persuasions, nationalities and backgrounds can come together in harmonious conversation to discuss all matter of civilized subjects in a gentlemanly fashion"

    That being said, I feel as though this thread has nothing to do with shaving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captp View Post
    "I feel" and "I think" mean exactly the same thing when used here. I feel that is, perhaps, the nitpickingest objection to language and grammar usage I've ever heard. Far more bothersome to me is the misuse of "there" for "their" (and vice versa), alot for a lot, to for too (vice versa again). The other annoyance is totally incoherent sentences and phrases. However, I know exactly what is meant in each misuse, so I never (NEVER) call anyone out on it.

    Folks, this is a SHAVING forum, not a grammar/spelling board.
    In case there has been any misunderstanding, this thread is not addressing any posts on SRP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captp View Post
    "I feel" and "I think" mean exactly the same thing when used here.
    Far more bothersome to me is the misuse of "there" for "their" (and vice versa), alot for a lot, to for too (vice versa again). .
    I think that "I feel" and "I think" are quite different. The rest can be blamed on spell check. Which I haven't downloaded!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNSB View Post
    In case there has been any misunderstanding, this thread is not addressing any posts on SRP.
    I went back and reread your original post. I feel I should apologize for misunderstanding you. Hmmm, maybe I should start a mini rant on grammar and English usage. Honestly, I detest the misuse of grammar; I'm talking (or, more properly, I'm typing) about the usage that makes me stop, back up and reread what what was just said, because the poster doesn't understand the meaning of a word. The other thing is completely incoherent sentences that I can't make any sense of (yeah, I know, a preposition is not to end a sentence with). e.g. (on word misuse) "I just got a bunch of nice birthday presence." "I have no patients four people who misuse English, because its hard to understand." (on incoherent sentences) "I'm not if can a incoherent sentence". I have heard both of those usages, and sentences even more incoherent than that.

    I have no problem with slang, unless it's misused.

    I just realized that I mini-ranted.

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