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    Default The dog returns to its vomit, and fool to his folly

    I smoked Camels with no filter for 36 years. Two packs a day at the end. I gave them up 10 years and 8 months ago. I had begun smoking tobacco pipes twenty five years ago to quit cigarettes and ended up smoking both. Finally though, I hung the Camels up in December of 2000.

    For the last month or more I have been obsessing about them. I don't know why but I finally broke down and spent $8.72 on a pack..... one pack of Camels. The label says don't look for discounts and on the non filter variety you won't find any. None of the buy two get one free like with the filter tips. They know if you're buying these you're hooked and they don't need to try and entice you.

    So at work, I ate my Chinese take out and went out back to smoke my first Camel in over 10 years. I got a little dizzy, not staggering dizzy but a little bit. Didn't taste good the way I remembered it and I had a headache by the time I finished it.

    I didn't smoke another for three days. On Saturday I had a big tattoo to do and wanted a quick nicotine hit so I grabbed the pack and went out back. Lit up and took two drags. It was terrible. I threw the thing away and ended up giving the pack to a guy that used to smoke them but quit buying them for a cheaper brand.

    So it is the nature of addiction that even after 10 years you can fall into the snare again. Fortunately for me the "slip" reinforced my giving up the damn things. Of course I still smoke the pipes but don't inhale so that is a plus. How I ever could have smoked and enjoyed those things is mystifying to me.
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    Lol I too went back to the old camel shorties (because they dont have lucky strikes out here anymore), had a week or two with them and was left flat by them. Back to my Humidor it is....

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    Hey Jim, although you quit 10 yrs ago im guessing cold turkey? if not then disregard my next statement...the day u stopped u were constantly craving the nicotine, the fact that it took 10yrs means nothing, hence the pipe smiking...there is still nicotine in the pipe tobacco no matter how "natural" they tell u it is.

    Nicotine is absorbed through the skin and mucosal lining of the mouth and nose or by inhalation into the lungs. Depending on how tobacco is taken, nicotine can reach peak levels in the bloodstream and brain rapidly. Cigarette smoking, for example, results in rapid distribution of nicotine throughout the body, reaching the brain within 10 seconds of inhalation. Cigar and pipe smokers, on the other hand, typically do not inhale the smoke, so nicotine is absorbed more slowly through the mucosal membranes of their mouths, the same as for smokeless tobacco. So you really never quit due to the nicotine intake.

    Please read this book, The Easy Way to Stop Smoking written by Allen Carr. I smoked for 25yrs 3 packs a day and was able to stop. No cold turkey, no gums, no electro ciggaretts, non of that stuff....i have never been happier. I hope you read it and you will surely understand my above statements. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtman775 View Post
    So you really never quit due to the nicotine intake.
    Absolutely ! All I did was go for a different, albeit less harmful, delivery system. Part of me would like to be free of the nicotine addiction but another part enjoys the pipe smoking too much to give it up. Pipes , once you are a dedicated pipe smoker, are harder to give up IMO. You not only have the nicotine dependency , but you also have the appreciation for the objects. The pipes I mean. Looking at them, handling them, the ritual of packing, tamping and all of that. Quitting means I would eventually sell my pipes and I love the darn things. Some of them anyway.
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    I smoke e-cigs, haven't touched a cigarette in about 6 months. One of the best things I've done for myself lately. If interested I can give people recommendations.

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    It just seems as of lately everytime i turn around someone close to me or aquaintances, more of the latter are being diagnosed with cancer....cigaretts are a definate death certificate....i have smoked a few cigars and a pipe once, i dont have the time to enjoy a cigar or the $$$...LOL For me i would smoke the cigar and right after want to smoke a cigarette, it got to be really stupid....The book, along with the combination of scaring the crap outa myself really got me to stop smoking. Enjoy the pipe, because no one can tell u what to do with your life, muchless someone else on the other end of a keyboard...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChesterCopperpot View Post
    I smoke e-cigs, haven't touched a cigarette in about 6 months. One of the best things I've done for myself lately. If interested I can give people recommendations.
    Me too... I started ecigs 2 years ago come this October. I was able to quit cigarettes from that moment. Man I could not believe and still find it hard to believe how easy I was able to quit with an ecig. Whats great is they dont smell and you dont smell after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthdawn View Post
    Me too... I started ecigs 2 years ago come this October. I was able to quit cigarettes from that moment. Man I could not believe and still find it hard to believe how easy I was able to quit with an ecig. Whats great is they dont smell and you dont smell after.
    I've heard very good things about the e-cigs and have considered that avenue. OTOH, when you say you started them 2 years ago, do you mean you are still 'smoking' them ? I had a friend years ago who successfully quit cigarettes with the nicotine gum but was never able to give that up. Certainly healthier than the smoke though. The ideal would be to get shed of the nicotine entirely.
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    I am an ecig fanatic, no more smoke, the effects or the stench thereof. Jimmy, I thank God that you were able to lay them back down rather than letting them get their hooks back into you, even if you have to stick to the pipes. Perfect verse BTW.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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    How I never took the cigarette habit is truly a mystery. Both of my parents' consumption of cigarettes was legendary. To this day I've never met anyone who smokes as much as my old man. My brother was once a fairly heavy cigarette smoker too (he's been reformed for probably 25 years or so.) Me, I dig tobacco in every other form but not cigarettes. Pipe smoking is probably my primary vehicle but I'll dip snuff without much provocation and recently have begun to dabble in cigars. I do enjoy large doses of vitamin N.

    My bride, however smokes cigarettes. Your story reminded me of the two times she was pregnant. To her credit she quit both times as soon as she found out she was pregnant and never complained about it. She wanted to smoke something terrible though and in both cases, as soon as the child was delivered and safe, her first priority was to go smoke a cigarette. In both cases, she emerged light headed and sick and very disappointed that the first cigarette was nowhere near as good as she expected. After a little practice though she was right back in the groove. I never understood that...no wait yes I do, I habitually dip snuff and my first couple times I was sick as a damn dog.
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