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    Hey Jim, although you quit 10 yrs ago im guessing cold turkey? if not then disregard my next statement...the day u stopped u were constantly craving the nicotine, the fact that it took 10yrs means nothing, hence the pipe smiking...there is still nicotine in the pipe tobacco no matter how "natural" they tell u it is.

    Nicotine is absorbed through the skin and mucosal lining of the mouth and nose or by inhalation into the lungs. Depending on how tobacco is taken, nicotine can reach peak levels in the bloodstream and brain rapidly. Cigarette smoking, for example, results in rapid distribution of nicotine throughout the body, reaching the brain within 10 seconds of inhalation. Cigar and pipe smokers, on the other hand, typically do not inhale the smoke, so nicotine is absorbed more slowly through the mucosal membranes of their mouths, the same as for smokeless tobacco. So you really never quit due to the nicotine intake.

    Please read this book, The Easy Way to Stop Smoking written by Allen Carr. I smoked for 25yrs 3 packs a day and was able to stop. No cold turkey, no gums, no electro ciggaretts, non of that stuff....i have never been happier. I hope you read it and you will surely understand my above statements. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtman775 View Post
    So you really never quit due to the nicotine intake.
    Absolutely ! All I did was go for a different, albeit less harmful, delivery system. Part of me would like to be free of the nicotine addiction but another part enjoys the pipe smoking too much to give it up. Pipes , once you are a dedicated pipe smoker, are harder to give up IMO. You not only have the nicotine dependency , but you also have the appreciation for the objects. The pipes I mean. Looking at them, handling them, the ritual of packing, tamping and all of that. Quitting means I would eventually sell my pipes and I love the darn things. Some of them anyway.
    Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.

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    I smoke e-cigs, haven't touched a cigarette in about 6 months. One of the best things I've done for myself lately. If interested I can give people recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChesterCopperpot View Post
    I smoke e-cigs, haven't touched a cigarette in about 6 months. One of the best things I've done for myself lately. If interested I can give people recommendations.
    Me too... I started ecigs 2 years ago come this October. I was able to quit cigarettes from that moment. Man I could not believe and still find it hard to believe how easy I was able to quit with an ecig. Whats great is they dont smell and you dont smell after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthdawn View Post
    Me too... I started ecigs 2 years ago come this October. I was able to quit cigarettes from that moment. Man I could not believe and still find it hard to believe how easy I was able to quit with an ecig. Whats great is they dont smell and you dont smell after.
    I've heard very good things about the e-cigs and have considered that avenue. OTOH, when you say you started them 2 years ago, do you mean you are still 'smoking' them ? I had a friend years ago who successfully quit cigarettes with the nicotine gum but was never able to give that up. Certainly healthier than the smoke though. The ideal would be to get shed of the nicotine entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    I've heard very good things about the e-cigs and have considered that avenue. OTOH, when you say you started them 2 years ago, do you mean you are still 'smoking' them ? I had a friend years ago who successfully quit cigarettes with the nicotine gum but was never able to give that up. Certainly healthier than the smoke though. The ideal would be to get shed of the nicotine entirely.
    Yea I still am "vaping" as they call it. I have lowered the nicotine level dramatically though. It's the hand-to-mouth thing that make quiting so hard. I was using 24mg liquid when i first quit and have since lowered it down to 10mg liquid. So the nicotine intake is much much less and I only vape on my way to & from work and sometimes at home. Its amazing how it emulates smoking.
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    I whole heartedly agree with Earthdawn, I can beat the addiction, its the damn habit(s) that have me hooked. I would rather go through life with an ecig than with a regular cig. For what a couple of cartons would cost(2 weeks worth of puffing) you can be set up with ecig kit with enough "juice" for the same time period, then its just a matter of buying the juice. 10$ for a 2week re supply of juice, beats the devil out of paying 40$ a carton.
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    I am an ecig fanatic, no more smoke, the effects or the stench thereof. Jimmy, I thank God that you were able to lay them back down rather than letting them get their hooks back into you, even if you have to stick to the pipes. Perfect verse BTW.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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    It just seems as of lately everytime i turn around someone close to me or aquaintances, more of the latter are being diagnosed with cancer....cigaretts are a definate death certificate....i have smoked a few cigars and a pipe once, i dont have the time to enjoy a cigar or the $$$...LOL For me i would smoke the cigar and right after want to smoke a cigarette, it got to be really stupid....The book, along with the combination of scaring the crap outa myself really got me to stop smoking. Enjoy the pipe, because no one can tell u what to do with your life, muchless someone else on the other end of a keyboard...LOL

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    How I never took the cigarette habit is truly a mystery. Both of my parents' consumption of cigarettes was legendary. To this day I've never met anyone who smokes as much as my old man. My brother was once a fairly heavy cigarette smoker too (he's been reformed for probably 25 years or so.) Me, I dig tobacco in every other form but not cigarettes. Pipe smoking is probably my primary vehicle but I'll dip snuff without much provocation and recently have begun to dabble in cigars. I do enjoy large doses of vitamin N.

    My bride, however smokes cigarettes. Your story reminded me of the two times she was pregnant. To her credit she quit both times as soon as she found out she was pregnant and never complained about it. She wanted to smoke something terrible though and in both cases, as soon as the child was delivered and safe, her first priority was to go smoke a cigarette. In both cases, she emerged light headed and sick and very disappointed that the first cigarette was nowhere near as good as she expected. After a little practice though she was right back in the groove. I never understood that...no wait yes I do, I habitually dip snuff and my first couple times I was sick as a damn dog.
    The older I get, the better I was

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