Thread: Nov 22nd 1963 The Kennedy Assassination

Originally Posted by joesixpack

There is little evidence that Ruby was anything other than an average joe.

Of couse there is little or no evidence. The mafia is not known for keeping detailed records on people in their employ, especially lower level thugs and cover operators. The files on Ruby from the FBI aren't exactly forthcoming either. Lot's of black marker.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Lot's of black marker.

This is the biggest reason people believe in a conspiracy and/or coverup. If it was LHO alone, an accident or intrigue, why wont they let us read the unadulterated documentation. 50 yrs later, who are they protecting?

decided to remove my post. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Mvcrash

decided to remove my post. Sorry.

Did you decide...










or did the CIA make you do it??

Originally Posted by Theseus

Of couse there is little or no evidence. The mafia is not known for keeping detailed records on people in their employ, especially lower level thugs and cover operators. The files on Ruby from the FBI aren't exactly forthcoming either. Lot's of black marker.

Ask the FBI for their records on someone, anyone. See how cooperative they are. FOIA means you can get your own (if they have any), but not anyone else.

There is nothing exceptional about the FBI's reticence with Ruby's files. The FBI (especially under Hoover, but still to this day) keeps extensive records on a lot of people. Whether you are involved in socialist political party activities, protesting the war (the FBI actually had informants in Quaker groups because of their anti-war position), a member of a mosque, or are a friend of a friend of a mobster, they have a file with your name on it. It may not have much, but they won't share it. They are not forthcoming with those files because it would be a breech of an individual's privacy, it would tip off others who are under active surveillance, and (more importantly) it would expose the level of government scrutiny that many "average joes" are subjected to. Ruby, Being a nightclub owner, was probably only two people removed from lots of mobsters, so I's not to far fetched that he'd get written up in more than one surveillance report.