Thread: Newt Gingrich

The south did turn republican based on the civil rights legislation that Lyndon Johnson was instrumental in passing in 1964. He told his then aide, Bill Moyers, that they would lose the south. It was no surprise to anyone but the legislation needed to be passed and instituted. Since then other 'hot button' issues have kept the majority of 'red' states where they are. I needn't name them. We all know what these issues are. To a southern conservative Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy and Barbara Boxer are perceived as typical of the democrats. I guess to a democrat Michelle Bachman or the one who quit as governor of Alaska ..... can't think of her name ..... are the perceived zeitgeist of the republicans. The extreme views always seem to draw more attention.

I would be shocked if a Mormon could be elected president. OTOH, JFK was the first Catholic and that was surprising in those days. In terms of infidelity to a spouse I was amazed that Bill Clinton wasn't run out of office. Years ago he would have been forced to quietly resign to "spend more time with my family." Our society has changed quite a bit in the past forty years so it is hard to know where 'we' are going to end up morally.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I would be shocked if a Mormon could be elected president. OTOH, JFK was the first Catholic and that was surprising in those days. In terms of infidelity to a spouse I was amazed that Bill Clinton wasn't run out of office. Years ago he would have been forced to quietly resign to "spend more time with my family." Our society has changed quite a bit in the past forty years so it is hard to know where 'we' are going to end up morally.

Kennedy had a reputation as womanizer, and people thought he was a hero.

Catholics are already well accepted in US, mormons are not even close. The current vice president is Catholic. Also the current supreme court is composed of 6 catholics and 3 jews, no protestants.
The mormon who's risen the highest in politics is Harry Ried, probably not the antichrist to the conservatives but surely one of his lieutenants

Not that i really know or care who this Gingrich dude is, but:

Politicians (and surprisingly not only politicians) sometimes have their affairs with opposite sex. It must be universal thing and not really a surprise anywhere.
Most people here seem to think that it is not their business to think what other people do in their private life, politician or not. What matters is how they do their job. We've had presidents, ministers and politicians whose affairs were somewhat a public secret. Sometimes it becomes really public and then the politician in question has no choice but to tell the truth. Rarely it becomes because such thing is really a private matter and not a case of public interest. Who is to throw the first stone?

There are exceptions, but they usually happen when person in question has done something worse. Few years ago one of our ministers had to resign after having an affair with a strip tease girl. The man had been known for last 30 years as a sort of 'divide and impera' -person with women and people saw him actually as a sort of the comedy person. Still he was very good at his job. After his affair with this strip tease bunny he was asked in public and when he denied, he also sealed his faith. He had to resign for telling a lie and that is a valid reason to get kicked out. Not sending stupid text messages to joybird who wasn't even pretty but rather looks like Miss Piggy. Still many feel sorry because he was really good at his job. Even opposite political parties did agree this. Nobody accepted a lie.

btw, and OT: Congrats Bruno for getting a new government after 541 days. That went for records!

Originally Posted by Sailor

Who is to throw the first stone?

Nobody cares about that, the real question is who is to throw the first bunga-bunga party, and we already know the answer

US is rather different than europe in this respect though - a lot more puritanical.

Originally Posted by gugi

. . . US is rather different than europe in this respect though - a lot more puritanical.

It's those damn puritans! We should have turned them away at the dock.

Originally Posted by Jimbo7

It's those damn puritans! We should have turned them away at the dock.

Why do you hate Thanksgiving so much!!!

Originally Posted by gugi

Why do you hate Thanksgiving so much!!!

Excellent point. We should have sent them packing that first December.