Thread: So whats so wrong with being able to speak French?

Originally Posted by Crotalus

My biggest problem with this primary is the _mistaken_ assumption that only Romney can beat Obama. I don't agree.

Not true in an absolute sense.
the problem is that in the primary race, the group of contestants quickly gets reduced to 3 or 4 contenders.
In the current primary, there are only 2 contenders left. I don't think Newt has a real chance of winning over a majority of the moderates who make the difference in the presidential elections.

Party line democrats and republicans don't matter in the election. They will vote part line even if the candidate is the gingerbread man.
The outcome is decided by the moderates sitting on the fence. They get to choose between 2 candidates. I don't realistically see them picking Newt Gingrich over Obama.

With Romney, I honestly think he has a shot of winning from Obama in the camp of the moderates who primarily want a stable economy at this point.

Originally Posted by Bruno

In the current primary, there are only 2 contenders left. I don't think Newt has a real chance of winning over a majority of the moderates who make the difference in the presidential elections.

I disagree. I think we need the most conservative candidate we can get. Romney is the least. I think people understand that only a conservative will be able to reverse what Obama has been doing.

Romney on the other hand will be attacked for Romney Care. That is his biggest problem. The Republican establishment and the Democrats want Romney because they know under him it will be business as usual. Business as usual will bring this country down. We will wind up in the same predicament as Europe. I'm not sure that even drastic action can save us from that at this point.

Our debt bill is coming due any time now and the world will dump the dollar.

All these problems are due to the Community Reinvestment Act and the Democrats, but the media is allowing them to get away with it and blame the Repubs.

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Only Ron Paul can defeat ObamaTron!

Originally Posted by Crotalus

I disagree. I think we need the most conservative candidate we can get. Romney is the least. I think people understand that only a conservative will be able to reverse what Obama has been doing..

Then you want Ron Paul.

However, realistically, at this point it will be Gingrich or Romney.
Of the 2, romney so far has the biggest chance of getting elected by the moderates who will decide the outcome.
I suspect that you would vote republican in the general election, no matter what.

that just means that for the outcome, your vote is irrelevant. You belong to a fixed block of voters, and you have your democrat counterparts. They don't matter either. They will vote, and they will vote for their party. The people who decide the final outcome of the general election are the ones who are in the middle and who might vote for a democrat OR a republican, based on which they perceive as the best.

In that regard, Newt has a smaller chance of making it with those people than Romney.
This is also why during the general election, candidates focus on the swing states, while e.g. Texas gets only token attention. Neither party can benefit from campaigning in Texas. In a very real way, the Texan voters don't matter in the campaign. The Texan vote is practically a given.

the ones who determine the outcome are the moderates in the middle.

Originally Posted by Bruno

They will vote, and they will vote for their party.

Sometimes you scare me

Originally Posted by Bruno

Then you want Ron Paul.

No, Ron Paul is only conservative on fiscal matters. On every thing else he is an extremist and just flat crazy.

I wanted Santorum but it looks like he is out.

What I REALLY wanted was Sarah Palin, mainly because she pisses all the right people off.

In my opinion, we don't need a consevative or a liberal. What we need is someone who both knows and understands the word "compromise." Same goes for Congress.

Originally Posted by Theseus

In my opinion, we don't need a consevative or a liberal. What we need is someone who both knows and understands the word "compromise." Same goes for Congress.

Not at all. There's been far too much compromising. We are being compromised into the ground. We need to say NO to more spending and shut the government down. This is Boehners' great failure. You don't tell people that you are going to fold like he does.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

Not at all. There's been far too much compromising. We are being compromised into the ground. We need to say NO to more spending and shut the government down. This is Boehners' great failure. You don't tell people that you are going to fold like he does.

What's happening in Congress has absolutely nothing to do with compromise. It's fighting and stubborness to the point of total inaction. Then on the night before the government shuts down they hastily pass legislation as a patch job so that they can continue to draw their ill-earned paychecks until the next deadline approaches.