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    I would love to see a regular guy make it into the white house. Someone who know what it feels like to struggle to pay bills and go years without a raise. Instead of the millionaires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crotalus View Post
    My biggest problem with this primary is the _mistaken_ assumption that only Romney can beat Obama. I don't agree.
    Not true in an absolute sense.
    the problem is that in the primary race, the group of contestants quickly gets reduced to 3 or 4 contenders.
    In the current primary, there are only 2 contenders left. I don't think Newt has a real chance of winning over a majority of the moderates who make the difference in the presidential elections.

    Party line democrats and republicans don't matter in the election. They will vote part line even if the candidate is the gingerbread man.
    The outcome is decided by the moderates sitting on the fence. They get to choose between 2 candidates. I don't realistically see them picking Newt Gingrich over Obama.

    With Romney, I honestly think he has a shot of winning from Obama in the camp of the moderates who primarily want a stable economy at this point.
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    I heard about that too. But since the primary elections in Texas will not be for a few more months, we have not had any political TV commercials yet. I don't know about the whole context of the ad, but it does sound like it's trying to reach out to an anti-foreign constituency.

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    it's really very simple: anything about a republican candidate that can be compared to a prominent democrat is going to be a potential weapon in the mudslinging. It has nothing to do with anti-intellectualism, xenophobia, etc
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    Sounds like something an anti-intellectual would say

    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    it's really very simple: anything about a republican candidate that can be compared to a prominent democrat is going to be a potential weapon in the mudslinging. It has nothing to do with anti-intellectualism, xenophobia, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    it's really very simple: anything about a republican candidate that can be compared to a prominent democrat is going to be a potential weapon in the mudslinging. It has nothing to do with anti-intellectualism, xenophobia, etc
    One could argue that if intelligence can be attributed to President Obama (I am not judging on leadership qualities), then your reasoning makes 'anti-democratic party'ism cause of anti-intelligence attitude. The anti intelligence -while being a result- is still a reality.

    I suspect Newt objects primarily to the idea that it is not every other non-American's duty to learn English and US culture. The concept that Americans can benefit from understanding other cultures is probably what he is railing about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    One could argue that if intelligence can be attributed to President Obama (I am not judging on leadership qualities), then your reasoning makes 'anti-democratic party'ism cause of anti-intelligence attitude. The anti intelligence -while being a result- is still a reality.
    You have a point, but it works both ways and so to me doesn't really amount to any true reflection of either party's established platform. In one breath Obama is intellectual so intellectuals are bad, and in another breath Obama is stupid therefore you need to vote for a Republican. It means nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    I suspect Newt objects primarily to the idea that it is not every other non-American's duty to learn English and US culture. The concept that Americans can benefit from understanding other cultures is probably what he is railing about.
    nah. Newt seems to try to project himself as a smart guy as well, he is just looking for mud to throw

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    Sounds like something an anti-intellectual would say
    damn yank atheist liberal!
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    Is that a compliment or insult?


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    damn yank atheist liberal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    One could argue that if intelligence can be attributed to President Obama (I am not judging on leadership qualities), then your reasoning makes 'anti-democratic party'ism cause of anti-intelligence attitude. The anti intelligence -while being a result- is still a reality.
    One could argue that, but then one would be using bad logic.

    Obama = intelligent
    Obama = democrat

    democrats = intelligent | is faulty logic
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    It's always been un-American to speak French. Don't you remember that we had to fight them for our Independence back in 1776. And if it wasn't for the English coming to our aid we'd still be a French Colony!
    Wait a minute ** that was someone's campaign ad**. The French were the ones to help us! I guess it was all about French Fries and the Fat and it not being good for us and putting a Tax on them because of ... Wait a minute... That was another Campaign ad... Well if you speak French then your smart! That's it; and we can't have smart people!!

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